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To Fall in Love or Falling Without Love – Episode #811

June 18, 2022

To Fall in Love or Falling Without Love
Episode #811
6/19/2022

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
With special guest: Charles Carrin

The crisis for the church is assuming that we can function apart from the love of God and we can’t.

John:
On a podcast coming up for the next couple of weeks we’re going to be having a special guest. We invited Charles Carrin to come up and spend time with us and to actually bring a blessing and dedicate this new store house. I had never met him personally but Martha and a number of our body members have known Him for some thirty years. And I so privileged to be able to meet him. He is an absolute amazing man. If I could describe him in a single word, I would say the word would be lavish. He’s a lavish giver; he’s a lavish giver of the word; he’s a lavish giver of himself and he’s a lavish giver of love. The power of God comes through him in a lavish way and it’s absolutely precious.

So we had him come and he spoke and he prayed and we did meetings with him and I wanted to share him with you. I wanted to open this up and allow him to speak. We interact with him. There are conversations between him and his son-in-law and daughter and us and Charles and there’s teaching and there’s just an amazing revelation. And the amazing thing is that the message that they were bring really, really resonated with where we’ve been going in the podcast, dealing with triggers, dealing with childhood trauma. They brought a message that really just joined in with that without ever knowing. The Spirit just amazingly brought it all together.

I just really wanted to bring this to you and to allow you to experience it. It’s going to be a number of weeks that we will unfold these messages and I hope that they will really bless you.

I thank you for listening and I bless you for being a part of our family and for really standing with us. All I can is that these podcasts are incredible life and have our family all around the world be able to listen to these meetings that are just very intimate,  informal, and beautiful. And so, thank you, bless you, I love you, and I appreciate you for listening. I hope you enjoy the interaction between us and Charles Carrin and his family.

>>>And now let’s bring out our special guest.

Charles:
If I can remember that. That goes back thirty-seven years. Píptō means to fall and when the young man fell asleep when Paul was long preaching that was píptō. But when the Apostle Paul, and he was dead, when the Apostle fell on him, that was epipíptō. Now it’s just simple Greek words and I’ve haven’t even thought of them in years. The difference between píptō and falling from the upper window or falling as Paul did upon him one is to embraced with affection. When the young fellow fell out of the balcony, he didn’t embrace that fall with affection. When the Apostle Paul fell on him, that was embraced with affection. What is the difference in those two falls? There’s love in one not in the other. There was no love when the young man dozed off to sleep and fell and broke his neck or whatever; there was no love. But when Paul fell on him, the overwhelming presence was love; love for him as a man; love for him as a creation of God; especially love for him as a young person now in great need. And the only one who could supply that great need was God Almighty Himself. How as He going to do that? He was going to do that with a demonstration of His love. It wasn’t just Paul falling on the young guy with love but it was as Paul did that the love of God embraced Him.

Now the message there for us is key, you and I can pat somebody on the back, we can shake their hand, we can acknowledge them, salute them and it be absolutely barren as a piece of brick or we can do that with love. And when we do that with love, then God Himself joins that moment.

This is key because pastors can preach sermons only mechanically, methodically and give you the statistics and the scripture location and the facts and it be totally dead and barren of love. That can happen. I’m not saying it does but I’m saying it can happen.

The crisis for the church is assuming that we can function apart from the love of God and we can’t. We can’t’! It’s not simply a matter that that it doesn’t work as well. It doesn’t work at all. Without the love of God injected into what we do it is barren and stale.

Now that doesn’t apply just to the church and service it applies to the whole of life. We can go about whatever our work, our employment man be, we can do that in a perfunctory sort of way without ever thinking about the necessity of love. But we can transform our work, our job from one of just a perfunctory service into one in which the motivation and the empowerment becomes the love of God.

We preachers can preach sermon purely methodically. I don’t recommend that at all. I think it’s a fallacy but it’s done. Preachers can write out their sermons and I know that it is done and the board of elders has to read the sermon and approve it before they dare speak it. And if the elders don’t give their approval, then it can’t be preached. The elder is not the one to whom judgment must be committed in the evaluation of a gospel message. The one who does the evaluation is God Himself. And if God approves of the message, then God will automatically bestow the anointing and presence of the Holy Spirit upon it.

I don’t think it’s a complicated thing to get the presence of God into the pulpit, into the sermon, into the service if we pursue it with that concept in mind that when we gain the approval of God, the appearance of God is an automatic thing.

And if we are going to give old #47 this Sunday and #412 the following Sunday simply because we pastors don’t want to be bothered with writing another sermon and people don’t remember them, anyway, so why bother to start with; just go ahead and do a re-grind on something that is old and outdated and put a new fresh adjective with it then everybody will be happy and the offering will be swell and the church will be happy.

Well, that’s all religious trash because what we want are messages inspired by the Holy Spirit. I can tell you this it does not come because we pastor stand behind the pulpit and open the Bible and God quickly grabs His chance. It does not work that way. It does not!

The modern church I would say, in enormous proportion has lost sight of what gospel really is. The gospel is not just preaching truth accurately and in alignment with scripture. Gospel is having the anointing of the Holy Spirit on the preached word because we preachers are not the ones that get so smart and so eloquent, so well trained that we can kind of hypnotize the people and they think they have heard something wonderful. That’s not gospel. Gospel is when we preach and the Holy Spirit anoints. Without the anointing there is no gospel preaching. I don’t care how well trained we are, how experienced we are without the anointing and presence of the Holy Spirit…

I love this old hymn. We used to sing it in my Baptist Church.

All is vain unless the Spirit of the Holy One comes down.
Let us pray that Holy manna may be scattered all around.

Then it goes on to say:

Let us love our God supremely.
Let us love each other, too.
Let us love and pray for sinners
that our God their souls renewed.
Then we will love them still the better,
take them to our kind embrace,
journey with them on to glory
there to sing redeeming grace.

And it all flows. It all flows.

We’ve been in services where we were hoping it would start flowing and it perhaps did or did not. The ministry of the gospel is simply the one in the pulpit having his ears open to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches because if the Spirit is not saying it to the churches, the churches are not hearing anything worth hearing. The program works that way like it or not.

To Fall in Love or Falling Without Love – Episode #811 – Shulamite Podcast

We want to introduce you to Charles Carrin. He’s a lavish; he’s lavish with the Word, he’s lavish with himself and he’s a lavish with love.

One comment

  1. Andrea says:

    “The church wants to feel able to explain about her spouse even when she has lost sight of him, even when, although she has not been divorced, she no longer knows his embrace, because curiosity has gotten the better of her and she has gone searching for other people and other things.” Carlo Carretto

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