Shulamite Podcast mp3 https://shulamitepodcast.com The Shulamite Podcast is a weekly conversation on discovering God & encouraging believers into deeper relationship with the Lord by Shulamite Ministries. Sat, 19 Oct 2019 14:33:04 +0000 en hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.4 The Shulamite Podcast .mp3 is weekly conversations encouraging believers into deeper relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. We explore the practical side of discipleship and discover God together in Body life. Shulamite Ministries clean Shulamite Ministries john@shulamitepodcast.com john@shulamitepodcast.com (Shulamite Ministries) © Shulamite Ministries Come experience anointed audio messages - not giving just another method, but a living impartation. Shulamite Podcast mp3 http://shulamitepodcast.com/wp-content/themes/Shulacast/images/Shulamite-Podcast-mp3.jpg https://shulamitepodcast.com TV-G Weekly Do We Fear God or Deny, Disown, and Reject Him? – Episode #672 https://shulamitepodcast.com/fear-god-deny-disown-reject-him/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fear-god-deny-disown-reject-him Sat, 19 Oct 2019 09:00:02 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5216 https://shulamitepodcast.com/fear-god-deny-disown-reject-him/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/fear-god-deny-disown-reject-him/feed/ 2 <p>Do We Fear God or Deny, Disown, and Reject Him? Episode #672 10/20/2019 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow The blessings and rewards that attend the fear of the Lord are great but too few reap them. How many instead actually deny, disown, and reject God daily? Martha: Well, I say, “Good morning, John!” And then […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/fear-god-deny-disown-reject-him/">Do We Fear God or Deny, Disown, and Reject Him? – Episode #672</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Do We Fear God or Deny, Disown, and Reject Him?
Episode #672
10/20/2019

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

The blessings and rewards that attend the fear of the Lord are great but too few reap them. How many instead actually deny, disown, and reject God daily?

Martha:
Well, I say, “Good morning, John!” And then I’m gonna start telling you where I’ve been, okay? (Laughs)

John:
Okay, that’s perfect.

Martha:
I started with this scripture this morning and then I went around the world. It’s 2 Timothy 1:7 – and we know it well, I think (laughs).

“For God did not give us the spirit of timidity (of cowardice…cringing and fawning fear) but [He has given us a spirit] of power…of love…of calm and well-balanced mind and discipline and self-control.”

And not really realizing the sequence of where I was going, the Lord took me to the fear of God. Because God’s not given us a spirit of fear, but we need the fear of God.

John:
Yeah, absolutely. The fear of God is the, the crucial thing.

Martha:
I knew about a young man who was troubled – I didn’t know details – but the Lord gave me a heart for him. And I felt God’s love and compassion for him and I prayed for him a good bit. And then he had a dream that everyone around knew was God showing him how scary God is. And it gave him the fear of God. And so one day I got to meet him, face to face.

And I took him aside and said, “I want to tell you something. God has given you the most precious gift, that will cause your life to be a success, cause you to be covered and protected and blessed and prosperous. And that gift is the fear of God.” And I said, “You won’t find many men in your life who have that gift. This is not a day and age where we understand the fear of God. We don’t know it, but you know it. And if you keep that fear of God, you will prosper.” And I said, “Go look, go look in Psalms and Proverbs and see the promises if you fear the Lord.” And I gave him some things to pray and that project and I said, “You see, you will see. You’re going to prosper.”

Well, in weeks, just short weeks, he began to– His whole life changed with the blessing and favor of God, giving him things he had never dreamed, and opportunities he never dreamed about. But that’s how I feel about the fear of God, is it is precious.

And we are supposed to pursue it! In Psalm 34, you are supposed to seek the fear of God. Someone asked me to pray for them to have the fear of God and I said, “I can’t do it, because YOU have to seek it. I won’t give you my fear of God, you have to get it. You have to seek Him, and when you see Him, you will have the fear of God.”

So anyway, in reading this morning, I came to this passage and it’s 2 Timothy. Paul’s in prison and he’s suffering a lot, but he has this amazing statement, that he is willing to endure everything for the sake of the elect that they may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. He’s ready to endure it. Then he says,

“The saying is trustworthy, for: if we have died with Him, we will also live with Him; if we endure, we will also reign with Him; if we deny Him, He also will deny us; if we are faithless, He remains faithful—for He cannot deny Himself.”

And I was just struck with that, because that strikes the fear of God.

John:
Sure enough.

Martha:
Remember in Matthew how they say to Him, “Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophecy in Your name and cast out demons and, and, call You Lord, Lord?” And He said, “Get away from Me. I don’t know you. I never knew you. You are lawless.” In other words, what they were doing was not being done in Christ. And so they were rejected at the very throne of God in heaven.

So I looked it up in the Amplified and it says,

“The saying is worthy of confidence and sure: If we have died with Him, we shall also live with Him. If we endure, we shall also reign with Him. If we deny and disown and reject Him, He will also deny and disown and reject us. If we are faithless [do not believe and untrue to Him] He remains true (faithful to His word and His righteous character), for He cannot deny Himself.”

And then Paul writes to Timothy, “Remind the people of these facts and solemnly charge them in the presence of the Lord.” So see, there’s plenty of places in the
Bible to develop the fear of God if we will just face them. And most of the time we won’t face it. But I know that I recently came to understand, you can obey the Lord and yet not die with Him. And you will end up being bitter and an enemy of His. Because He will ask you to do things, give up things, and you have to die. You have to learn— The skill of the Christian life is learning how to die. And I don’t know how to explain it but it’s letting go of what God wants and letting Him have what He’s already taken. And saying, “Okay, I agree. I let go.”

John:
That’s beautiful. Say that again.

Martha:
It’s letting go of what God wants and letting Him have what He’s already taken. I give up what God has taken. I let go of what God wants and truly give it to Him. And I’ll, I will hurt and die in that, but if we die with Him, we shall also live with Him. So learning to die is the skill. But this in the Amplified is so chilling. “If we endure, we shall also reign with Him.” And I looked it up, I looked up ‘endure’ in the original languages and in the dictionary and it means “persevere, stay with it, carry on, don’t give up.” And also it’s mentioned in Revelation, one of the keys to overcoming is to endure with perseverance. And we have to endure with His perseverance. And Paul was in prison and he was enduring and he was also not withholding these serious matters that give you the fear of the Lord. And today we have a grace that is false. What does Paul say in Romans, John?

John:
It’s Romans 6:15 and it says – I love it! I always call it the ‘what then?’ and ‘certainly not!’ – “What then [are we to conclude]? Shall we sin because we live not under the Law but under God’s favor and mercy? Certainly not!”

Martha:
That’s the grace of today in many places. But the reigning with Christ is supposed to be the greatest treasure that God has waiting for us. To be, to be beside Him forever and ruling the nations. That is supposed to be our goal.

John:
That’s the highest reward.

Martha:
I believe so, yeah. But this says, “If we deny and disown and reject Him, He will also deny and disown and reject us.” And what I’ve seen so much through my years with the Lord is that when it comes to obeying the Lord, and we don’t give Him what He wants, which is self, really all of it is just self. Give up your self and that’s where the death is. The death of Martha is the death of self. An agreement to be dead and to be as worthless as self is.

So if we deny, disown, and reject Him, He will deny, disown, and reject us. That happens when you talk about the Lord and you put yourself with people of the Lord, but you do not surrender, obey, and die where He wants you to. You can be in the midst of believers and be the traitor. But the problem is, if you deny Him, He will deny you. If you disown Him and don’t claim Him, He will disown you. And if you reject Him in those subtle ways we can do it, then He will reject us. If we’re faithless and do not believe and are untrue to Him, He remains true, faithful to Himself. He will continue to be Jesus Christ, Son of God, King and Master of the universe. And then, He cannot deny Himself. So it’s possible, all this, is it clear what I’m saying? That we can appear to be true and not at all be, and be in the rejection of Him.

John:
That absolutely is clear. I, it reminds me of the thing I wrote about Jonah and the whale and Jesus and I said that death is inevitable. That we are all gonna die. Nature displays this before us seasonally and circumstantially. It is not whether; it is when how and to what end. So if we are all going to die, don’t we want to appropriate that death wisely?

My choice is whether I die a living death for Christ or die to my destiny in self will. Again, I am going to die regardless, so I might as well make it count and reap the maximum benefit. If I die on my personal cross, I am rewarded with Christ’s life. If I die through avoidance of God’s will, I lose everything. One is to save my life and lose it, the other is to lose my life and save it.

Martha:
Oh John, thank you! That is— See it’s absolute. It is absolute! If you’re going to follow Him, you’re gonna have to give everything up!

Do We Fear God or Deny, Disown, and Reject Him? – Episode #672 – Shulamite Podcast

The blessings and rewards that attend the fear of the Lord are great but too few reap them. How many instead actually deny, disown, and reject God daily? Paul warned us all that in the end Jesus would respond in kind to our rejection and it’s too late by then!

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The blessings and rewards that attend the fear of the Lord are great but too few reap them. How many instead actually deny, disown, and reject God daily? The blessings and rewards that attend the fear of the Lord are great but too few reap them. How many instead actually deny, disown, and reject God daily? Paul warned us all that in the end Jesus would respond in kind to our rejection and it's too late by then!<br /> Shulamite Ministries clean 11:40
The Adventure of the Faithful – Episode #671 https://shulamitepodcast.com/adventure-faithful/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=adventure-faithful Sat, 12 Oct 2019 09:00:15 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5200 https://shulamitepodcast.com/adventure-faithful/#respond https://shulamitepodcast.com/adventure-faithful/feed/ 0 <p>The Adventure of the Faithful Episode #671 10/13/2019 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #668. There is nothing dull or hum-drum in a prayer life that belongs to Jesus. The life of the faithful believer is one of true adventure […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/adventure-faithful/">The Adventure of the Faithful – Episode #671</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> The Adventure of the Faithful
Episode #671
10/13/2019

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel

This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #668.
There is nothing dull or hum-drum in a prayer life that belongs to Jesus. The life of the faithful believer is one of true adventure and wonder and mystery!

Jennifer:
I didn’t see effort from you with it. I, you know, I didn’t hear you saying, “I’ve put an alarm in my phone to say, ‘Pray for Steve Scalise five times a day.’” But when it’s Him, it’s not an effort. I know that. When He has the freedom to come in and love as He loves and turn whichever way He wants to go, so He can be praying in faith one moment and then praying with urgency the next moment and, you know? And it’s not an effort thing. I did not see effort with you, John, you know. And I didn’t hear effort the few times that you mentioned it while you were in process. It was never about, you know, “Aw man! I’ve got to remember to pray for that guy!” It was never that. That wasn’t what came out. It wasn’t, “Oh yeah, I should have.” Because when He puts it on your heart, it’s, maybe it’s no longer a you and a Him, it’s a you/Him. You were a ‘WE!’

John:
Yeah, and, and, and like you said it, I, it was on me. It wasn’t like it was something that I was having to do or it was, it, it… I didn’t have to remember. It was on me. And I couldn’t escape it when it was there. And, you know, and it could have been, you know, it could’ve just as easily been that I was praying for the beginning part and not the end part; that I had the passion for the beginning and then it was over; that I didn’t remember him again from Adam’s house cat. But that wasn’t the, the story that, that Christ was wanting to write in me. He was wanting to write the whole deal in. He was wanting me to be a part of the entire process to the very end which was neat. And that’s, that was a testimony to me and a, a real encouragement because I, I was able to see it, you know. We don’t, we don’t often get to see the results. We don’t often get to see. And, and literally the thing that really blew my mind is that because he put it in a book, I was able to see every nuance of it which was so much more interesting. Because, you know, all the people we pray for they don’t write books to say what was going on, you know? But I was able to, you know, kind of get a front row seat to the entire thing both in the prayer and then in the retelling of it so that I could see what happened. So that’s so cool.

Jennifer:
Well, and I was one of those people that when I heard about it happening I prayed right then. I think I probably prayed two or three times for him as I was reading the news. But then that was it. And I don’t feel guilty hearing you talk about it right now. I guess that’s the other thing. If God had laid it on my heart and I was like, “Ugh, no.” You know? That’s a whole different ball game. And I, I can say no to Him. That’s the deal. I can! But that’s what’s amazing to me is there’s no problem if you prayed once, twice, three times at the beginning when you heard it. That’s wonderful! There’s, there’s no problem whatsoever. You’re talking about a specific story where God took you from start to finish. Where He took you in deep. And, and, you know, I want us all to, to have that story and to have the desire for that kind of faithfulness I think, you know? Because we, we talked about relationship and we talk about companionship but it’s only possible when you’re faithful.

John:
And available!

Jennifer:
But that’s, isn’t that it?

John:
Yeah, sure!

Jennifer:
Isn’t that a part of being…is it fidelis? I’m getting into Latin. No, fidelity. Faithful commitment, right? We’re saying relationship. That’s part of it. That’s part of it is that faithfulness and that commitment and that availability, that time. It’s real! It’s not just something you check off of your day. John, you have true, actual relationship with Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Oh! When you say it out loud I know that we all do it and that’s the normal Christian life but it’s, it’s pretty wild when you actually think about it, isn’t it? I mean I just think that’s incredible.

John:
Well, that’s a, the semper fi, right?

Jennifer:
Yes.

John:
That’s, I mean that’s it. And, and I just looked it up because I was like, “Oh, yeah, that’s what she’s talking about.” I mean that’s, that’s the Marine Corps’ motto is always faithful, always loyal. That’s… And, and if you are faithful, if you are loyal, then you are available. That’s, that’s what I would say about a Marine is that they are available. They are on the job regardless. They’re there. They’re always faithful. And in the moment, they’re being faithful and, and so that’s a cool, that’s a cool word to bring to it with the fidelity and then to think about that.

Jennifer:
I, I don’t think we think about it in those terms but that’s how it plays out. And that, that’s what your actions spoke of, John. And that’s what being available to God speaks of. That is a faithfulness. That is fidelity. And, and good grief, that’s, that’s hard to have when you’re looking at someone right face to face let alone when it’s an encounter with the, the unseen, unknowable but still knowable, the great mystery of God, you know? That is, that is something!

Martha:
I think what we’re touching on is the great adventure of changing the world, changing lives and changing… That lies within our ability simply by—not by going out and doing it as you’re, as you’re saying, Jennifer, but by being available to the Lord.

I, I prayed a good bit over someone in, in a medical crisis and family crisis and the Lord gave me specific things in the scripture and when it was all over and this person is with the Lord, I came to hear that every prayer I prayed was answered. And that surprised me (laughs). That shocked me, of course.

But, but we just want to get into that great adventure because we are to be instruments of changing the world and citizens of the kingdom and bringing His rule and His presence and His reign in and I want to get on that train that’s moving and that adventure. That because it makes you know, number one, not only that we’re hearing God but God is hearing us. There it is. That’s truly amazing.

Specific prayers were answered. I prayed the heaven would open and the heavens did in the most amazing… I’m not free to tell the story but it’s, it’s amazing when you know that God has heard you and He has responded with His own power. That is the adventure of walking with Christ. And that’s the adventure He wants us to have because every adventure of prayer is knowing Him and believing more and more in His power to rule over any situation that He wants to do so. And He uses us as the partner to His agenda and His, His, His dream for every person. Just, just to make… Give us more, Lord. Give us more.

It’s so beautiful that He initiated it with John. Yeah! And John is no stranger to long-term commitments to pray. We know that don’t we, Jennifer (laughs)?

Jennifer:
Yep (laughs).

The Adventure of the Faithful – Episode #671 – Shulamite Podcast

There is nothing dull or hum-drum in a prayer life that belongs to Jesus. It may be quiet at times, but when you wait on God, listening for His voice, the reward is spectacular. The life of the faithful believer is one of true adventure and wonder and mystery!

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There is nothing dull or hum-drum in a prayer life that belongs to Jesus. The life of the faithful believer is one of true adventure and wonder and mystery! There is nothing dull or hum-drum in a prayer life that belongs to Jesus. It may be quiet at times, but when you wait on God, listening for His voice, the reward is spectacular. The life of the faithful believer is one of true adventure and wonder and mystery! Shulamite Ministries clean 9:44
To Pray Like a Spiritual Veteran – Episode #670 https://shulamitepodcast.com/pray-spiritual-veteran/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pray-spiritual-veteran Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:00:03 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5198 https://shulamitepodcast.com/pray-spiritual-veteran/#respond https://shulamitepodcast.com/pray-spiritual-veteran/feed/ 0 <p>To Pray Like a Spiritual Veteran Episode #670 10/6/2019 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #668. How exactly does a veteran of spiritual warfare pray? And is it possible for a new Christian to pray like a mature believer? The […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/pray-spiritual-veteran/">To Pray Like a Spiritual Veteran – Episode #670</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> To Pray Like a Spiritual Veteran
Episode #670
10/6/2019

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel

This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #668.
How exactly does a veteran of spiritual warfare pray? And is it possible for a new Christian to pray like a mature believer? The answers may surprise you!

Jennifer:
Well, I think your story so encourages me, John, because… I’m going to address this now. I know we put a note up on the podcast transcriptions. But worth noting that, you know, weeks ago when we did a podcast and I talked about my prayer experience with Jeffery Epstein and his sex trafficking and torrid, torrid life. Then he died or was killed or killed himself or something. He’s gone! He’s, he’s not walking this earth right now. And I don’t have kind of an open-shut victory like you have. I have the victory, you know, that his, his deeds began to come to light and are still coming to light. His not being here has not stopped the, the truth pouring out. It is pouring out and continues to. And I continue to pray that the darkness will come to the light where he is concerned. My prayer has not changed.

But I told Martha the, the morning after I, I heard about his death, I told her that I was so grateful that God had taken me through the entire way, had brought me to a place where I actually did pray for the salvation of Jeffery Epstein. Because if I had not, when I heard that he had died I don’t know how I would have felt. But I think even as vile and evil as, as he had chosen to be, it would have freaked me out really big time. It really would have! And I would have said, “Oh, no! Lord, did I pray his death in? Did I pray in anger? Was I cursing him instead?”

And you know what? He knows us down to the last molecule and so even though I don’t have my Scalise in terms of the, the clean ending, you know, for that situation… You have an open and shut for Steve Scalise for that incident, which I don’t have. But I have an open and shut even with my incident because God took me all the way through in my process so that on the other side of this, I have a completely clean conscience before God where this man was concerned.

And so I think, I think God will use any experience if we’ll just get in it with Him and just listen and just let Him pray what He wants to pray through us. It doesn’t matter, you know, I mean, you’re a veteran, you know? We’re not at the same places in our walk and there’s no problem. I’m also not counting. I’m not doing numbers. I’m not saying anything like that. But, John, you’re a battle-hardened veteran, you know. And I hear a story like this and I say, “I don’t care what stage I’m at, that’s where I’m going.” You know what I mean? And that’s, that’s what I want. I want God to be that free that He puts on my heart not just somebody who I’ve seen in the news or I found in hidden corners or something like that. I want Him to have the freedom to put on my heart somebody I’ve never heard of before in my life. And, and to pray with that kind of passion like Martha and the UPS man. Same thing! You know, that’s what I want and that’s where I’m going, that’s where He’s taking me. And so I have a lot of hope right now listening to this. I really do!

John:
Well, I, I, I can say that I’m a witness to you being a veteran as well. I’ve, I’ve watched you do it with countless things: people that have called and, and things that have happened in the ministry. Just basically I’ve, I’ve watched you pray for people and, and see changes. We talked about one, one lady today that you really, you know, invested in, in the Spirit and that God gave you a heart and it was not costless. It was costly. And you literally changed her entire countenance and entire way of interaction with, with this ministry and with you. It was, it was pretty dramatic, actually.

And I’ve seen that over and over again so you, you really are a veteran as well. And, you know, I, the Steve Scalise thing was, was kind of a, a dramatic, demonstrative expression of this prayer life, but you, you absolutely do dwell in and, and, function in the warrior mode.

I watch it. I’ve seen it. I’ve seen, you know, we had, we had prayer the other day and you brought, you brought the prayer that literally was the answer to the entire thing, which was phenomenal. I mean, and it, it was so on target and it was so amazingly God.

So you may say that I am a, a veteran and you just want to be there someday. I say pfffffflubbbbbbt! Because you are. You really are. I’ve, I’ve witnessed. I’ve witnessed, I’ve witnessed you do it at conferences. I’ve witnessed you do it even as a, a brand new baby Christian. You… I have seen you step up to the plate and bring a maturity beyond yourself because it was the life of Christ. So I, I, I say, “Yay, Jennifer! God got her!”

Martha:
I say amen to that, Jennifer. But I also know how much you’ve prayed for me. And how I have benefitted from it. So, yes indeed, you have a huge volume of… In your book of life in, in the heavens there are many stories. And… So you do know. That’s why you’re so appreciate it.

John:
You wouldn’t even care about it if you didn’t have it. You wouldn’t even have the desire for it if you didn’t have it. The reason why you have a hunger for it is because it’s not only your calling but it is… You have it. You, you have the, the interest because it is the expression of Christ in you. So, yeah, absolutely!

Jennifer:
Well then I hope that gives lots of people hope and not just me. Because if you heard this and you said, “Ooo, I want that. I want that kind of story, I want that kind of interaction with God” then John’s saying that you have that there because that is His life in you, and I wanna say, “Whoo hoo!”

But that’s just it. That’s just it. That’s… When it happens, when we cry with His tears and love with His love and turn when His heart turns, as Martha said, sometimes if it’s happening in our life we don’t recognize it because when you’re in the flow it’s not a you, it’s not a me versus Jesus, it’s a we. There is, there is a, a union there and I know it is not old me but I don’t necessarily recognize it in the moment that it is my new creation which is fully in union with Him. And so I don’t see it as being me. Does that make any sense? And that’s kind of, that’s kind of beautiful, too. That’s nice. I’ll find out about what was actually happening in my life on the other side. That’ll be a fun party! I’m okay with that.

But, you know that’s… John, with this, with this story I think, I think the thing that, that really amazes me is I didn’t see effort from you with it. I, you know, I didn’t hear you saying, “I’ve put an alarm in my phone to say, ‘Pray for Steve Scalise five times a day.’” And I, I don’t, I’ve nothing against that. You know if the Lord tells you that you need to set up prayer a couple times a day, He can tell you whatever He wants.

But when it’s Him, it’s not an effort. I know that. When He has the freedom to come in and love as He loves and turn whichever way He wants to go, so He can be praying in faith one moment and then praying with urgency the next moment and, you know? And it’s not an effort thing. I did not see effort with you, John, you know. And I didn’t hear effort the few times that you mentioned it while you were in process. It was never about, you know, “Aw man! I’ve got to remember to pray for that guy!” It was never that. That wasn’t what came out. It wasn’t, “Oh yeah, I should have.” Because when He puts it on your heart, it’s… Maybe it’s longer a you and a Him, it’s a you/Him. You were a ‘WE!’

To Pray Like a Spiritual Veteran – Episode #670 – Shulamite Podcast

How does a veteran of spiritual warfare pray? And what wisdom can we glean from their life experiences? These are great questions, but it turns out that even a new Christian can pray like a mature believer when they let Christ do all the praying in them!

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How exactly does a veteran of spiritual warfare pray? And is it possible for a new Christian to pray like a mature believer? The answers may surprise you! How does a veteran of spiritual warfare pray? And what wisdom can we glean from their life experiences? These are great questions, but it turns out that even a new Christian can pray like a mature believer when they let Christ do all the praying in them! Shulamite Ministries clean 11:03
The Power of Praying as God Asks – Episode #669 https://shulamitepodcast.com/power-praying-god/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=power-praying-god Sat, 28 Sep 2019 09:00:46 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5193 https://shulamitepodcast.com/power-praying-god/#respond https://shulamitepodcast.com/power-praying-god/feed/ 0 <p>The Power of Praying as God Asks Episode #669 9/29/2019 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel and Joan Wentzel This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #668. It’s not unusual to pray over a person or situation without knowing the details of what is happening. But praying […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/power-praying-god/">The Power of Praying as God Asks – Episode #669</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> The Power of Praying as God Asks
Episode #669
9/29/2019

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel and Joan Wentzel

This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #668.
It’s not unusual to pray over a person or situation without knowing the details of what is happening. But praying as God asks isn’t always done blindly.

Martha:
When we did the recording for the Message of the Month, John didn’t participate in the story but this time I want to hear some things from him that he went through in, in the whole process because he was with it for months. What’s, what do you remember about it, John, that…

John:
Well, it was really cool because I wasn’t focused on it. It was like it was being brought up continually to me. And like, you know, I would all of a sudden, boom, I’d have it. And, and, it’d be in my face and I’d deal with it in prayer and then I’d, you know, pray for it and then the kind of the burden would go away. And, you know, I, I didn’t know from day to day if it was over, it was done, if I was, you know, if my part had, had been complete. But, you know, I just kept on, I just kept on waiting and listening.

Martha:
You were available.

John:
I was…

Martha:
That’s it. That’s the deal.

John:
I was available, absolutely.

Martha:
To God!

John:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, I was, I was there and I was available and I just waited.

Martha:
And you really weren’t involved in, in the new reports as such, were you?

John:
No. Occasionally I would hear something about him and, you know, it, it sparked prayer. But usually it was, it was just kind of just the Spirit. It was just the Spirit would say something.

Jennifer:
And that’s, that’s what I think is so amazing about that, John, because the news if you were watching the news and I was, because at the time I was knee deep in my news addiction, Steve Scalise was out of the news in four days. He was out of the major media in four days and so was his killer. So if you were relying on the news to prompt you to remember to pray, you would not be praying, okay? It would not have happened. I know this because I remember saying to myself, “It’s day five and this guy is nowhere to be found and neither is his psycho, psycho shooter.” It’s like the whole thing they just wanted to, whoop, let’s just pretend that never happened. So that’s what’s amazing to me because if you had relied on the news, you would not have been in it to win it.

John:
So that’s what was cool is that He would bring it up. The Lord was bringing it up to me and would tell me. And you, you mentioned, you know, when, when he took a downturn and I didn’t, I didn’t know. Yeah, I had never even seen the guy. I didn’t know what he looked like. I knew nothing about him. I just knew Steve Scalise and I, you know, I had to actually go Google him to find out where he was from and, you know, what his congressional district was and who he was. But, so then, you know, he did, he made a major downturn and I knew it in my heart. My, my spirit was just so troubled. And so I started searching, actually, you know, to see. I was praying but then I actually searched online to say, “What’s happening, what’s happening?” It was a day or two later that I found out that, yes, his, he, what is it called? Sepsis? So he turned septic.

So, the, you know, it, it literally, his injury… I, I just knew it. I knew, I knew that something with his injury had, had taken a downturn and that it, it put him in kind of a critical condition. And so I just really, really, really… That’s when I brought it to you the most is when I was like ,“This is really bad. This is, this is really bad.” And then when I found out that, that he had, had gone septic and he, his body basically… I think he even had… I was, I, I thought, what was going through my head was MRSA and staff infections and stuff like that. Because literally what had happened was the bullet went into his hip and it shattered the bone and the bone became almost like shrapnel that went through and sliced through all of the organs, the blood. It was just… Externally when you looked at him, there was no issue. It, it, I mean you obviously saw he had been shot but it was the internal deal and that’s why they, they had to do so much because they were saying, “What is happening with him? Why is his vitals doing this? What is happening?” And it was because literally it was like his own bone became shrapnel inside his body and just cut organs and, and, and blood vessels, and everything like that. And so he’s bleeding out.

So they went in and they, they, they basically did all the surgery to put him back together. But then some kind of infection turned and, and he start… And I, I, I just, I was like “Whoa, ok!” So I really started praying about that.

Martha:
So what was the end of that siege? I know he had a number of surgeries, just, count, countless surgeries. But he came through that part, didn’t he?

John:
Yeah, they, they, everything that they did, they turned, turned everything around and, and, you know they addressed…. I mean they gave him top notch. I mean he had had the best doctors obviously because they were on it. They were, they were fighting for his life.

But I know that, you know, the doctors had only so much that they could do. I know that whoever was praying with me for him and I know that there’s been a lot of people because he testifies of that in his book; how many people had, you know, responded and told him that they were praying for him. You know you got all those people praying that say it. What about all the people like me who never told him?

So he was covered. He was covered in prayer for whatever reason and it, it turned it around. It turned it around and I prayed all the way until the point that I saw him at an interview. And shortly after we actually listened, you know. We did the book. It may have been after that. Anyway, I, I saw an interview with him and, and… I guess the house majority leader. So it was Kevin McCarthy and, and Scalise and they were there and they were talking about something. I don’t remember. But anyway… And I, and I saw them and, and I said, “Ok, ok.” I mean he had a cane and, you know…

To hear the book I cried. I cried a lot because I, I knew, I, I was like, “That’s when I was really freaked out. That’s when I had urgency. That’s what happened.” So I actually heard the back-story of, of what I was praying for which is really, really neat. It’s special. That was special because, you know, it’s one thing to pray and, and then all of a sudden somebody’s better. It’s another thing to literally have a blow-by-blow accounting of it and to see that was the day I was praying.

Martha:
How did you feel when you read the story and listened about the victory?

John:
Well, I knew God had, had, had really done the victory. That it, it was something that the Lord did and I knew that Steve was chosen and Steve was called and Steve was purposed. There was something about Steve.

And, you know, this isn’t the first shooting. You know they had what was her name, Gifford, who was shot in the head? Gabby Gifford or whatever it was. She was shot in the head. I didn’t have anything for her.

It just, there was something about him. I had, I had no idea even what party he was in until I, you know, did some research. I didn’t know anything about him. It was just, it was just like God was saying, “This is, this is who you’re praying for.” So I did.

And, and reading it, reading the, the testimony of it, it, I remember you and I were going over to Myrtle Beach to write and I remember crying. I just cried and you cried. We both cried. We were listening to it while we were there; we listened to it on the way there. And it was just, it was an amazing testimony and an amazing book to hear it but then to be a part of it and hear it was even better.

Martha:
I kind of see it as a great, massive organization that God put together, of people who knows where. They’ve got many letters from people who did pray but as you say that’s… Who knows what it is. But it’s like God can do anything. He can, if He wants prayer for a situation, He can, He can call for it and it’s just a matter of being available. And you were available for a long, long time really, months and months.

John:
Yeah, it was a charge. It was something I was involved with, you know, kind of continually and it didn’t leave me. It’s not like I was on it. It didn’t leave me. So that was the big difference.

The Power of Praying as God Asks – Episode #669 – Shulamite Podcast

It’s not unusual to pray over a person or situation without knowing the details of what is happening. But praying as God asks isn’t always done blindly. Sometimes we are given the gift of seeing behind the scenes of our heart’s cry in glorious detail!

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It's not unusual to pray over a person or situation without knowing the details of what is happening. But praying as God asks isn't always done blindly. It's not unusual to pray over a person or situation without knowing the details of what is happening. But praying as God asks isn't always done blindly. Sometimes we are given the gift of seeing behind the scenes of our heart's cry in glorious detail! Shulamite Ministries clean 11:01
A Story of the Heart of God – Episode #668 https://shulamitepodcast.com/story-heart-of-god/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=story-heart-of-god Sat, 21 Sep 2019 09:00:29 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5191 https://shulamitepodcast.com/story-heart-of-god/#respond https://shulamitepodcast.com/story-heart-of-god/feed/ 0 <p>A Story of the Heart of God Episode #668 9/22/2019 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel This is the story of the great heart of God. Our heavenly Father looks for vessels willing to carry His compassion for people, His LOVE for people in need. Martha: Well, John and Jennifer and I […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/story-heart-of-god/">A Story of the Heart of God – Episode #668</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> A Story of the Heart of God
Episode #668
9/22/2019

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel

This is the story of the great heart of God. Our heavenly Father looks for vessels willing to carry His compassion for people, His LOVE for people in need.

Martha:
Well, John and Jennifer and I are gathered here in the office because something is on my heart that I want to share with everyone. A couple of weeks ago we shared in the podcast about Jennifer praying over the current events of child and sex trafficking. And we realized, and we did it on air, that we were praying the same thing and that the Holy Spirit was giving us different things to pray.

And I want to tell a story about a quite amazing event, that I told this story on the message of the month and I really wanted to do a podcast on it because it is so incredible.

I’m going to let Jennifer read the beginning of that tape.

Jennifer:
We were reading and talking about something separate and we went on a hunt to find the story because it was really on Martha’s heart and I remembered it as well. And we couldn’t remember where it had been done because, honestly, that’s how much the Lord is pouring through this ministry. There is so… That we are under a deluge of amazing revelation and blessings and so we had to go on the hunt to figure this out and we figured it out that it was in August Message of the Month which is The Glorious Heart of God, which if you haven’t… Oh, you know, the whole entire message you just, you just don’t want to miss any of these messages Martha’s been doing on the heart because they are absolutely connected to, complimentary to, supporting of everything the Holy Spirit is doing in the other aspects: the loving of self that John hit on the last few podcasts that is now all of us are, are in that. It’s just all there. And this story is part and parcel of that and what it means to be a vessel of God’s love and to let Him come in and put on your heart what He wants to put on your heart even if it has no other connection than His, His desires and His relationship to you.

And that’s really what this story was and it was an incredible story of what God is able to do with a receptive heart. And the passion He’s able to instill even when there’s no rational connection as we would think of it.

Well, before, we have Martha do the story actually I, I want to… A few gems that came right before she told this story that sets it up quite a bit. And I’m telling you, you just need to, you’ve just got to hear this message.

So Martha was saying, she said, “And I was taught by the Spirit that we needed to have an empty heart, empty of our opinions and our negative thoughts and wicked thoughts and even frivolous thoughts. We needed a quiet empty heart in order for Christ to express Himself through us.

“The heart is a vessel that belongs to the Holy Spirit for the feelings of God in Christ. We are to cry with His tears and love with His love and turn when His heart turns. Our heart is to be absolutely owned by Christ for His use, for His expression. Literally He wants to express His feelings and thought through our hearts. And we’re to be honest with what we feel but we are to continually be emptying out. We’re pouring out our life and our identities so that we’re available for God’s use.”

John:
Ok, so now I’m going to actually take an, the excerpt out of the CD of the Month and, and play that for y’all so that you can be on the same page with us and we can all enjoy it. So here’s the excerpt.

Martha (excerpt from The Glorious Heart of God):
There’s a story that I want to tell about John’s heart being used by God and that’s how you learn God’s compassion, God’s power, God’s purpose is when you allow your heart to be used by God.

There was a representative in the United States Congress who was shot by I think it was a mentally ill person. He was a representative from Louisiana, Steve Scalise. He’s called the Minority Whip in the House which is a strange title but it’s a strong position of leadership and he was voted there by the trust of his peers. And he was at a place, a baseball field where other government officials were and he was shot, terribly wounded. The shot went into his hip, passed through his body. Just wrecked many organs in his body. It was, it’s like his body exploded from within with that one shot. And he was rushed away, bleeding profusely internally and externally.

And John’s heart was filled with God’s compassion for that man. When it happened, he was very much in touch with the news. He was telling us what was going on with Steve Scalise. And his spirit, I believe it was God’s call to John to pray for weeks and months for that man. He was called to pray God’s power and healing and the will for him to live and be restored to his position in Congress. And that burden lasted for months. It would go along and weeks would go by and John wouldn’t have mentioned it and then he would bring it up again. And I realized that all those weeks, he had been on duty to pray.

And that burden lasted for months because his injuries were severe. It was an incredible commission on John to stay with the man until he was well and then the day came when he was well and John rejoiced as if it were a relative because he had been involved not with the man but with God’s heart for the man. And He’s, He kept John with, with it.

So that’s what it means to carry God’s heart and learn it. God was with that man for, in the most intimate care. And I, I read the book of his. He wrote a book about the whole thing. And he was a Christian. But he told… All through the book it was the explanation for his recovery was that it was a miracle of prayer. And he knew that many people prayed for him; many, many outpourings of letters came to tell him that people were praying for him.

But apparently that man was favored by God and He undertook to arrange and organize a huge move of prayer for that man. And His love for him and His commitment to that man to, to bring him back to life was spread across the country with many, many people praying.

But John was absolutely involved and I was not. I could forget that it had happened and then John would bring it up and I would realize, “Oh, yes we need to be praying,” but John had the prayer. John had the heart of God. That’s more than just a commitment to pray. He… I’m not sure he made a commitment in himself to pray. I think God committed him! And he agreed and went with it.

So to know His heart takes being available to Him. Watchman Nee, I’ve said this before but it’s so crucial, Watchman Nee said, “Give to God the ownership of your heart and then He will turn your heart where He wants it to go.”

I did that many years ago and it is absolutely the truth. God wants to possess your heart with His heart.

Martha:
I want to say that the incredible thing about this story is that it sort of came from heaven as an assignment to John and John has… John is very aware of what’s going on in the world but he’s not entangled with the news and he’s not entangled with politics and he’s, he prays more than he will admit about things in the world.

But this is amazing because as Jennifer implied in the, in the reading, he had no connection to this person that God brought to him. And I didn’t even really know who the man was. But it’s an incredible story of the intervention of God. When He wants prayer done, we are to be available. Even if we don’t know anything about anybody that we’re to be available.

Several, a couple of weeks ago the Lord very strongly alerted me to pray for the U, UPS driver and I assumed He meant for the UPS driver but I didn’t know who so I just prayed health and protection and whatever, whatever came to me and thought no more about it.

A couple days later our UPS man stopped by and I said, “You know, I want to tell you something strange.” He comes to our office all the time. And I said, “I want to tell you that the Lord told me to pray for the UPS man and I prayed for you.” And he said, “Oh my goodness, thank you! You don’t know what we’re facing out there in this world.” He said, “We just had a driver shot three times.” Just the day before I think it was. And he said, “Perhaps you were praying for him because he lived and has, he’s been released from the hospital now two weeks later.” And… But he said, “It’s, it’s dangerous out there. There was no reason for this man to be shot.” And he… And so I realized that maybe it was true. Maybe God had a bigger reason.

So I want it to be kind of an encouragement to me and to all of us to keep an ear open to the Lord for what He wants. And I followed this man. Found him on, found pictures of him online and know his name. So he, he’s going to be dear to me. And so will our own driver.

But the Lord is looking and calling for agreement with His will to transcend the evil of the earth and He’s waiting and watching for somebody that will pick up on, on His call.

A Story of the Heart of God – Episode #668 – Shulamite Podcast

This is the story of the great heart of God. Our heavenly Father looks for vessels willing to carry His compassion for people, His LOVE for people in need. He does all the heavy lifting, requiring only a heart attuned to His and desirous of His will!

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This is the story of the great heart of God. Our heavenly Father looks for vessels willing to carry His compassion for people, His LOVE for people in need. This is the story of the great heart of God. Our heavenly Father looks for vessels willing to carry His compassion for people, His LOVE for people in need. He does all the heavy lifting, requiring only a heart attuned to His and desirous of His will! Shulamite Ministries clean 11:53
Leave the Hate and Love Your Life – Episode #667 https://shulamitepodcast.com/leave-hate-love-your-life/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=leave-hate-love-your-life Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:00:52 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5179 https://shulamitepodcast.com/leave-hate-love-your-life/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/leave-hate-love-your-life/feed/ 7 <p>Leave the Hate and Love Your Life Episode #667 9/15/2019 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel and Joan Wentzel This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #663. Do you hate your life? Do you hate YOU? We are created to be vessels of God’s unfathomable, consuming love. […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/leave-hate-love-your-life/">Leave the Hate and Love Your Life – Episode #667</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Leave the Hate and Love Your Life
Episode #667
9/15/2019

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel and Joan Wentzel

This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #663.
Do you hate your life? Do you hate YOU? We are created to be vessels of God’s unfathomable, consuming love. And that love is for us as well as the world!

Martha:
There’s a verse, I think it’s in 3 John right before it gets to Jude. I’m not sure where it is but it, what it says is, “Keep yourself in the love of God.” And that’s always been quite a challenge to me because basically we don’t believe we are loved as much as we are. And if you… But “keep yourself in the love of God” means that you have to keep in the place where you enjoy His love for you. It’s another place. I have to include myself in the command to love because I started as I told before… The Lord said, “There’s someone you hate.” And I said, “No, Lord. I don’t know anybody I hate.” He said, “Yes, there is one. It’s you! And I will hold you accountable for that hate as soon as I would if you hated any other person.”

So I began a long time ago with this nudging from the Lord and, but… Keep yourself in the place where love can reach you is sort of the inference of that verse. Do you have it, John? Keep yourself in the place where you can have God’s love. In other words keep yourself needing His love and wanting to experience His love and keeping yourself without any barriers of sin between you and Him.

And that’s the thing that I’m enjoying so much right now with lavish forgiveness and unconditional love. Then I am… There’s a sense in which I am fortressed behind that love and I’m safe and I am filled, as John said. I’m full and I… All things, all kind of things go with that fullness. It’s a sense of being intact. That word ‘intact’ has always intrigued me because I want to feel as a person that I am completely intact. And… Not that I don’t need anyone but that I am myself.

John:
I think we find that intactness when we are willing to love. I think that’s where the intactness comes. It’s not in developing necessarily your character, even though that happens. It’s more about love. Your, your character comes out of love. I don’t understand how exactly. I can’t, I can’t give you the ins and outs.

Martha:
Oh, but the one character trait, the one integrity is love; basis; the one, the first. That’s brilliant, John.

John:
So… Yeah, if you don’t love, then guess what? You’re nothing!

Martha:
Um hmm. And you’re vulnerable to hate and to all levels.

John:
And susceptible to it.

Martha:
That’s what I mean. Um hmm.

John:
Susceptible and vulnerable. You’re vulnerable to the attack and you’re also…

Martha:
And it’s, and it’s the enemy also wants us to hate God.

John:
And once you hate yourself, don’t we turn that?

Martha:
Actually that’s what it is…

John:
Exactly.

Martha:
…is to hate God.

John:
We’re hating God doing it.

Martha:
When we hate the life He gave us, we’re hating Him.

John:
Exactly. That’s exactly it.

Martha:
And so that’s…

Joan:
And as you’re talking, John and Martha, what I hear is that the love is not only the power it’s the authority over the hate.

John:
Wow.

Joan:
Because God is love and His love conquers all so, therefore, love isn’t just isn’t a power it’s the authority of God to, to subdue the hatred.

Martha:
We don’t know to fight warfare using love, do we?

Joan:
And what I’ve seen in my own life is it is a real battle not only in your heart but in your mind to watch your thoughts; to stay in thoughts that are loving and things that are, you know, it’s that scripture: “Think on those things that are lovely and of a good report.” And it’s filling your mind, really, with, with the love of God in, in all its richness and fullness, you know; the wonderful things.

And, and just… But I have a responsibility to keep my thoughts because that affects my heart and filters in; and even about myself. I’m so pierced as John and Martha have been talking because I have, too, have lived in much hatred, much self-hatred and there is a neutral ground that you go to. Well, I don’t hate myself anymore but I can’t say I love myself. And that, that’s the work John’s doing and I see it as just a, an amazing journey and an encouragement to me to absolutely go into.

Jennifer:
I was asking the Lord, again for years, “Please tell me how to love myself. I, I don’t know how. I have no idea how.” And I had somewhat of a breakthrough not long ago and He said, “All of your priorities where your self is concerned are not about loving your self. They are about just getting to a place where you’re not ashamed of yourself.”

So my only contention with all this is that I’m not sure there really is a neutral ground, such as we understand that. I think, maybe there’s a less horrible ground but, you know, it’s still not… Until you cross the bridge into love, it’s not really neutral. You’re still just varying shades of not so good, you know.

And I said, “Ok, well I told You I didn’t know how to love myself.” So, all right, fine, you know. I’m shamed based. Ok, so that’s where I am. I said, “You know, what do You want me to do?” And I didn’t say it nice like that because that’s not how I work.

And this is, this is the aspect of forgiveness that He’s been working out in, in my life: working to give myself a clean slate every day. That’s it! That seems such a straightforward and simple thing, and I realized I don’t think I’ve ever done that in my entire life. Which is probably why I have struggled mightily to give other people a clean slate, depending on what the offense was. How tied was it my wounds, you know? And if it was tied too closely to my own wounds, there was no clean slate. I didn’t have one for me, I wouldn’t have it for that person, you know. I would fight and fight and fight all day long. “I forgive you, I forgive you, I forgive you!” Tied! Tied in there.

And I, I think it’s really been changing things. There are places that I have been, like boulders sitting in my life I’ve been unable to move and they are wobbling from one thing: Forgiving myself, every day, for being me. Right?

Now have I crossed the bridge to love such as it is, no. This is a step of obedience. This is what He gave me. I’m to give myself a clean slate every day. I’m going to follow that until He tells me what’s next, you know?

And so that’s part of the process, too, John. And I want to encourage people with that. Sometimes it’s not so dramatic and you can spiral out and say, “Well, it should be bigger than this, it should be showier than this, it should be more obvious than this.”

Either I trust Him or I don’t. And, you know, there’s so much going on that the past two months has felt like two years. That’s, seriously, that is what it is has felt like because He is so on the move and there’re so many things happening not just in the world but in, in our personal body of Christ, in our church, in my life with Him. And I, I gotta say I’m content. I’m content to do that one thing until He gives me something else. It’s… And I’m not capable of that contentment. So I’ve got to figure that’s Him, too.

John:
And it’s in our individual lives, absolutely. There’s movement in our individual lives.

Jennifer:
Yes.

John:
Even how we interact with our self, see our self. It’s, it’s everything! He’s doing… I mean there’s something going on and it’s pretty amazing.

Martha:
A lot of repentance going on and that’s where, where change begins, on your face and genuine repentance.

Joan:
And I’m seeing that forgiving myself, as Jen says, for just being me. Some days it’s just as simple as that. It’s just for being who I am. I don’t even have to get up and do anything yet. It’s just being me. But forgiveness opens the door to love. Without forgiveness I will never be able to love myself. If I cannot forgive myself, there’s no hope of me loving myself or anyone else.

Martha:
That’s beautiful!

The reference I made earlier is Jude 20-21. I’ll read it from the NKJ. But I’m going to look it up in other translations. “But you, beloved…” There see he’s love. He’s speaking out of love. “Building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit. Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.” Keep yourself in the love of God. Ok, what, what is the definition that, Jennifer? Keep is, is actually guard.

Jennifer:
The word ‘keep’ here is tereo from teros. I don’t know if that’s how you pronounce it. “A guard or warden. It means to keep an eye on, to keep something in view, to hold firmly, to attend carefully or to watch over it.

Joan:
This scripture reminds me of Proverbs 4:23. And in the Passion it reads, “So above all guard the affections of your heart for they affect all that you are. Pay attention to the welfare of your innermost being, for from there flows the wellspring of life.”

John:
And Brother John brings the benediction!

So I really, I really am challenged by this and this is where I’m at and I’m inviting all of you that are listening. If your heart has been pricked by any of the things that we’ve said, that you see that you are not in a place of loving yourself, I’d love to invite you into this journey because I’m sure that this is going to be something that we’re going to touch on in the near future. I think that as, as God exposes and trains us up and brings us into that love of self, I believe that we’re going to come here and we’re going, you know, share it with everybody and… Because it’s vital for us; it is vital for us. We will die if we do not have this.

And, so I, I really, I bless all of you to run with us with it and I’d love to hear in the comments anything that you want to, want to share and, and, you know, we’d like to, you know, have this be a dialogue as well. Because I, I think that He’s going to develop this and we can help each other. So thank you for listening and go love yourself!

Leave the Hate and Love Your Life – Episode #667 – Shulamite Podcast

Do you hate your life? Do you hate YOU? We are created to be vessels of God’s unfathomable, consuming love. And that love is for us as well as the world! You cannot hate yourself with impunity. Let go of that hate and let the love of God pour in!

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Do you hate your life? Do you hate YOU? We are created to be vessels of God's unfathomable, consuming love. And that love is for us as well as the world! Do you hate your life? Do you hate YOU? We are created to be vessels of God's unfathomable, consuming love. And that love is for us as well as the world! You cannot hate yourself with impunity. Let go of that hate and let the love of God pour in! Shulamite Ministries clean 13:57
Forgiveness and Love in a World of Hate – Episode #666 https://shulamitepodcast.com/forgiveness-love-world-hate/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=forgiveness-love-world-hate Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:00:54 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5169 https://shulamitepodcast.com/forgiveness-love-world-hate/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/forgiveness-love-world-hate/feed/ 3 <p>Forgiveness and Love in a World of Hate Episode #666 9/8/2019 “This podcast was recorded one week prior to Jeffery Epstein being found dead in his prison cell.” With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #663. When you purpose to forgive […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/forgiveness-love-world-hate/">Forgiveness and Love in a World of Hate – Episode #666</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Forgiveness and Love in a World of Hate
Episode #666
9/8/2019

“This podcast was recorded one week prior to Jeffery Epstein being found dead in his prison cell.”

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel

This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #663.
When you purpose to forgive and to love, that forgiveness and love hits a world full of hate like a fully loaded freight train. You will be astonished!

Jennifer:
I forgot to talk about this. A few years ago, if you had asked me if there was any way that I could have any sort of ministry to, for instance, a pedophile, I would have worked very hard to say “Yes,” but it would have not come from my heart. It would have been because God tells me that forgiveness is there? But it was impossible for me to imagine having, crying out with the level of passion and mercy and love that, that I have had for, you know, not just a few years, for since I’ve been saved, for victims who are children of these things. Wholehearted! Ok, so nothing, nothing withheld and actually having love for, mercy for but concern for their soul. That level of forgiveness, of love in prayer I would have thought impossible on that level for a pedophile. Yes. Which to me I don’t know if it is or not, I can consider peak evil, okay?

I have had that kind of prayer for Jeffery Epstein. All the time? No. No. At least three times? Yes. He is… When God says, “It is not My will that any should perish.” I’m paraphrasing and it’s… That’s what He said. Any! That part I know is right. That includes the Jeffery Dahmers, the Ted Bundys, the, you know; they are included in the word ‘any’; it’s a specific word. It covers the gamut.

And…But I, I could not imagine getting there. I couldn’t imagine crossing the bridge. I could imagine gritting my teeth and saying, “In obedience to You, Lord, I pray they do not go to hell.” That, that was as far as I could picture. And that was as far as I could pray, to be perfectly honest, for that. Because my heart was so holy engaged on the other side of it, with the victim.

And I don’t know that my prayers would have had the power if I hadn’t, if He hadn’t done a work that I can’t see, to remove that hate in my heart. And it was hate, to remove that hate in my heart so that His mercy could come in, so that His love could come in. Because it is love that makes a difference and, and… Always.

And so those prayers had to be fueled by love maybe completely including the perpetrator. I don’t know! I don’t know what, what role that played. But I know love is something we, we cannot fathom. And love and forgiveness go… You can’t separate one from the other. And if you let the Lord do what He’s going to do, you’ll have them both. You’ll have them both in that place, in that moment, you’ll have the love, you’ll have the forgiveness and they’ll go hand in hand. You won’t be able to separate them.

It’s that video I watched and I think, John, we’ve talked about it on the podcast. But it was the, the Green River Killer, I think; serial killer. And it was the day in court when all of the victim’s families got to have their say before the judge; it was for sentencing. But it was basically just a chance for their pain to be heard, for them to say something to him. And he sat there like a stone, his face never moved; he didn’t look them in the eye. He… And they were crying, screaming, saying… I mean it was emotional, as you can imagine, you know. He had murdered women they loved.

And then this man got up there and he looked like Santa Claus; he had a big white beard. And he was tearful and it was his daughter who was gone and he said… Well, he said several things. But basically what he said was, “I forgive you. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do but I forgive you completely. There is nothing of me on you.”

And that’s when the Green River killer started crying. He turned his face away, he snuffled. That’s what broke him. Forgiveness broke him. Hatred did nothing. He was prepared for that. He was defended against that – the rage, the anger. You think these people do what they do out of nowhere? Of course not. They probably had, you know, hell inside them from the time they were little. I don’t know because God has not given me that kind of, and I really don’t want that kind of knowledge into the, that sort of mind. But hate did nothing. Righteousness anger did nothing, their tears coming from that, nothing. This man forgave and he said, “I forgive you utterly.” And that’s what broke him. Love broke him.

John:
Well, I’m going to open up something here and it’s kind of going in a different direction that we’ve been going but it goes along with the, the whole love theme. This morning I was walking and the Lord really just… He’s been just kind of talking to me while I’m walking and said, “Be as loving to yourself as you are desiring to be toward others.” And I don’t know if this is baked totally yet and I don’t really want to serve half-baked bread but if y’all will jump in and have anything with it, then that’s great.

But there’s a whole process of, of, of loving yourself that I’m seeing pretty intensely and being convicted of because I’m, I feel like God’s kind of taken me down a path to, to love myself in a lot of different ways. I have physically changed a lot of things to love myself, respect myself, whether it’s exercise or whether it’s eating right or whether it’s vitamins. That’s a, that is a love and a respect of my self.

But then there’s, there’s a, there’s a whole thing about self talk. There’s a whole thing about a respect of your process. There’s respect of your self. And, and that’s where I’m at right now. And I, it’s, I can, I can cut this easily. But I mean that’s where I’m at. And so He says, “I want you to love you as much as you want to desire to love others.” And I went, “Oh, well that’s a huge challenge, isn’t it?” Because I don’t think, I don’t think I always do.

I mean, I’ve come away from self-hatred but there’s a big difference between being in self-hatred and being, being willing to love yourself. There’s a neutral there. And I think I’ve been in a little bit of a neutral. And He wants me to love myself and so there’s a lot of ways of doing that and I’m, I’m discovering ways of doing that. And, you know, maybe there’ll be another podcast we’ll do that we, we talk about that.

But I really feel like it’s pretty huge. It’s pretty huge.

Martha:
As we’ve been sharing this together, I realized the meaning of the second commandment in a deeper way. “Love the Lord your God with everything in you and love your neighbor as yourself.” And I’ve heard the statement, “You cannot love anyone unless you love yourself.”

And the Lord taught me this years, years ago. And He said that, “You are the only person you will ever truly know. Make sure that you do come to know you. It’s the only relationship of, of its kind in your life to you.”  And He called me both to respect and to love myself and I’ve told the story different times on tape that life… I realize so clearly in the last ten or fifteen years that the intent of the devil in your life is to get you not to love yourself. And if you don’t love yourself, you will soon die spiritually and then you’ll die physically. And it’s… But it is a mandate to the Believer to love your neighbor as you love yourself. And so the investment in self is just respect. And He said to me at that time, “I created you. God created you, so love the creation of God. Give Me the respect as your Creator by loving, loving the one you, that I created.”

I did a booklet on Overcoming Self-hatred. I think I need to go add some chapters to it because I see some wonderful things. But so much is forgiveness and love. Because you love God and because He loves you are the power that we can use in the world.

I was going into a situation and I just knew that it could be touchy so I just sent God’s love there. Just “Pour out Your love there, Lord.” And it was completely miraculous. That Love is a power we possess not a feeling. Love is an… We are… We have within us the love of God compelling us to love if we will listen to it.

So that… I would love to develop that and learn more about doing that because the battle… I’m telling you, brothers and sisters, the battle of the enemy is to, to so come at you through people in hatred that you begin to hate yourself. There’s, there’s…

I know that the enemy is simply hate. Satan is simply hatred. That’s all there is to him and that’s all there is about him and that is his fruit. And if he can instill his hate in someone and then they turn their hate on you then the only hope you have to survive is to love and to love yourself and not allow yourself to turn against yourself because there’s so… In our… There’s a work of pride that takes place that I should be what I, I should be what I think I should be and so I’ll just… I had a friend show me. She lifted up her two hands in a fist and she said, “I’ve realized when I did that I was really saying, ‘Oh, you stupid thing’” and she really repented of it because really that kind of hatred can lead to disease and it is deadly. Because anytime you take, partake of hating, you can’t, you can’t allow yourself the luxury of hate because it will eat you up and take you down.

John:
And everything is trying to convince you that you’re hate-able and that you’re not loveable. And when someone comes against you, they’re trying to evangelize you into hate. They’re trying to take you through, through the process to turn on yourself.

Martha:
Right. There’s some… Usually it’s from someone bitter with God and unhappy with what He’s given. So…

John:
Well I’ve, I’ve even, you know, been challenged, you know, physically. There, there… I could say, “Oh well I want, you know, whatever, blah blah, bigger muscles, whatever.” And, and God’s challenged me saying, “I made, I made this and I’m pleased. So what’s your problem?”

You know there’s…You know people can have body shaming issues. And it’s real easy. And, and especially when you’re at a gym or something like that, you know. And you can have body shaming issues like, oh, I just, you know, I don’t match the grade here or whatever. And, and, you know… And I really have been checked on it. God’s like, “What are you, what is your problem with what I created?” I’m like, “Oh, well, nothing, Sir! No, it’s just absolutely beautiful and it works perfect. So thank You very much. I love it.”

So… But there, there’s so many aspects of it. There’re so many aspects of self-love. And, and, and it does, you know, it sounds weird because it’s like “Oh, you love yourself!” It sounds selfish. It sounds odd but it’s not.

I literally, I literally have to love myself because I can’t go into the world looking for the world to love me because the world will never love me. But I can love myself and when I’m a full vessel of love, then I’m able to love and the, the world will respond back to me with love. But if I go into the world with, with a desire to take love. “Please love me, please love me, please love me!” I, I literally will be vanquished because that’s not the order. The order is you love you and then you go out and you love the world as yourself. Just as you said, “Love your neighbor as you love yourself.” And so first and foremost I have to be, I have to be full up in love on, of me. I have to… I am, I’m an awesome guy. I am! And I look in the mirror and I say, “I like who you’ve become.” It has been a long work. I’ve had to get through a lot of self-hatred. But I’m like going, “I like who you are and I don’t care what anyone says. I like… I think my jokes are funny. I don’t care if you laugh because I like my jokes.”

So… You know… And I’m, I’m really enjoying and celebrating me. I’m, I’m unique. I’ve got a lot of really cool things about me. And I know that for some people it may be a little over the top, but I like it. And, and then I can go from there and I can love others and I can, I can express that love and, and even when you start doing that people freak out. “Oh my God. Why are you loving me?” They think you’re trying to get something. “No, I’m full. I don’t need anything from you. I love myself and I love who I am and, and it’s an overflow. And if you want to be part of that splash, great. You can have some of it. But you don’t? It’s ok. I don’t need your love.”

Now sure we all need love. But when I stand in the place of, of first loving myself, I’m not coming in as a deficit. So…

Forgiveness and Love in a World of Hate – Episode #666 – Shulamite Podcast

When you purpose to forgive and to love, that forgiveness and love hits a world full of hate like a fully loaded freight train. You will be astonished! But there’s a catch: you have to love yourself. That’s not always easy but it’s never optional.

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When you purpose to forgive and to love, that forgiveness and love hits a world full of hate like a fully loaded freight train. You will be astonished! When you purpose to forgive and to love, that forgiveness and love hits a world full of hate like a fully loaded freight train. You will be astonished! But there's a catch: you have to love yourself. That's not always easy but it's never optional. Shulamite Ministries clean 18:11
How Prayer Impacts the World – Episode #665 https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayer-impacts-world/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=prayer-impacts-world Sat, 31 Aug 2019 09:00:38 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5167 https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayer-impacts-world/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayer-impacts-world/feed/ 1 <p>How Prayer Impacts the World Episode #665 9/1/2019 “This podcast was recorded one week prior to Jeffery Epstein being found dead in his prison cell.” With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel and Joan Wentzel This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #663. When you purpose to pray […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayer-impacts-world/">How Prayer Impacts the World – Episode #665</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> How Prayer Impacts the World
Episode #665
9/1/2019

“This podcast was recorded one week prior to Jeffery Epstein being found dead in his prison cell.”

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel and Joan Wentzel

This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #663.
When you purpose to pray what God gives you to pray, then you will see the impact of that prayer on the world. It may take years but it will be answered!

Martha:
We knew… In Austria, we were exposed to a group of women whose ministry is to go on the streets and rescue women and give them shelter, refuge, spiritual counsel, and everything. And I said to one of them, “Are you afraid when you go out?” She said, “No!” Because you don’t mess in that world! It’s a world of violence. And she said, “No, we are in the Lord’s will. We are not afraid at all.” And they have… They were involved in the hands-on involvement rescue and it was just amazing to hear it. They bring them in and get them, bring them to salvation, give them hope and restoration. It was just amazing. And I’m sure there are ministries that are very secret, that do that.

Jennifer:
I think there have to be. That’s the thing. That, that’s simply scriptural as well. Where sin abounds, grace does that much more abound. So there’s… It’s not possible in these places of darkness that there isn’t light equal to the task; that He hasn’t put a calling and a ministry. It’s, it’s not possible.

Martha:
And… But we need to pray for that, too.

Jennifer:
Absolutely.

Martha:
Sending workers into the harvest. And… So we can… The amazing thing is that it has to be solved by prayer. All of it has to be solved, can only be solved by prayer. But He’s given to us, everybody, can do that.

Jennifer:
That, that is, that is what is just blowing me away is that this is literally… I’m not saying there’s anything special about my life. I’m giving you a specific testimony for a specific area of my life where there’s a big stronghold that He came in and He solved and then He turned it around and it is now an, a fruit, an orchard in my life. It’s a, it’s a fruitful area of light that’s His.

Martha:
And you and John are praying for certain, certain men in, in the world of news for their salvation.

Jennifer:
Absolutely.

Martha:
Didn’t you tell me that one of them is mentioning the name of Jesus?

Jennifer:
One of them and I won’t name his name, but one of the men that John and I have both prayed for…Both… The Lord gave us a heart for him. He grew up Christian… There’s… You can’t see it but I’m making air quotes! Meaning possibly in name only. And so there was there, and he had a, a very hard childhood, grew up with a lot of poverty, a lot of bullying, you know. Lot of pain, lot of pain! And, but he has an audacity to him. And I don’t mean audacity in a bad—fearlessness. There’s a fearlessness to him. He, he’s overcome so much on his own and John and I both just respond to that. He has a heart. His heart is still intact. It’s a very big heart. It’s a mushy heart.

And so we’re been praying for him. And he, he has mentioned the name of Jesus five or six times in the last two months alone. And he is now connected with blazing, born-again Christians; are now part of, you know, his network. And it’s been watching this happen in real time. And, you know, again do I take credit for that? No! That’s, that’s gauche. That’s… And nor do I want to. I don’t need a notch on my Bible. I don’t need that. That is, then that makes me… Then it’s all about me, right? It’s not about me! But it is so exciting. And it gives me such hope. It’s not without fruit. It’s not! When it’s His prayer, there will be fruit.

John:
It’s cool just to know that your prayers are effective. It doesn’t matter that you get the, you know, the brownie point or the notch in the belt or whatever or the Bible. You, you don’t have to have that for, to know that your, your prayers are being answered, that they’re being birthed through you from the Lord’s own mind. There’s nothing like that.

Jennifer:
No, it is, it’s wild! It’s a, it’s a little bit wild. I know there are people that want to see really outlandish miracles performed right in front of them, like a missing limb grow back before their very eyes. I understand that. I’d love that too, frankly. But to me this is miraculous, because I know it’s Him. It, it’s not possible. Do you know what I mean? And yet here it is. And so all the things that people have said about prayer, like that it goes off like a detonation and in the spiritual realm; that a single prayer, that it is ignited by the Lord, it’s His prayer and you’re praying in agreement, you’re basically bringing heaven to earth as, as we’re, we’re, we’re called to.

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Come where? Come here. Thy will be done. What is Your will? On earth as it is in heaven. This is what that is! This is, this is that transaction. It’s not just a, a saying that we’re said for years and years and learned in Sunday school. It’s real! I mean, that is, this is just awesome.

Martha:
And there’re some stories we can’t tell. They’re miracles.

Jennifer:
A lot of miracles that we can’t tell on this side of it anyway.

Martha:
Um hmm.

Jennifer:
In heaven I have no doubt that we’ll all know exactly what those are.

Martha:
But we’ve seen the power of prayer over mighty strongholds. Un, unfixable situations.

Jennifer:
Impossible situations. And the answer is no less miraculous; more so even, you know. Meaning the, the, the Jeffery Epstein that, that was the example I used because it seemed impossible. If you’re worth over half a billion dollars, that’ll buy you a lot of get-out-of-jail-free cards in this world. And, and, and when you’re serving mammon, right? And it certainly did for a very long time. But Johnny Cash was right. “You can run on for a long time but sooner or later God will cut you down.” (Laughing) Johnny sang it with all sincerity. He knew what he was singing about. He’s a man who’s been felled. I am no stranger to the ax. I know what it is to fall. And maybe that’s part of it too.

There’s some part of you that just says, “Lord, I believe that this is You telling me to pray this,” and maybe that’s all you have to have. You don’t have to have a vision for it come into fruition. But you do have to do the work to believe that you’re hearing and that you’re obeying and that you’re in His will to do so. That is my work to do. And it’s a really hard work to do, ok? It is tested a lot. And I’ll take it.

Martha:
Oswald Chamber says, “Prayer is not a work. It is a work to pray.” That make sense? It is a work. It’s not easy. It’s filled with war and all kinds distractions and so forth. But this kind of thing puts you on fire…

Jennifer:
Yes.

Martha:
…to change the world.

Jennifer:
Which is clear because I’ve been kind of loud and yelling (laughing). I’m sorry, John. John’s been over here adjusting buttons, probably trying to keep me from like…

Martha:
­­­(Laughing) Busting up the equipment.

Jennifer:
…blowing out speakers and hurting ears out there. My apologies.

Martha:
No apology. It’s wonderful but it is a fire that we need.

Joan:
I have no big thing like that to talk about. I’m going to talk about my little world where this is meaning so much to me what Martha said, is purposing to forgive immediately and then love that person. What I’m learning about that which is so wonderful for me in a practical way because even if you give yourself to the end of the day, it gives yourself a lot of time to ruminate on things, to maybe drag up other offenses, to just make some mountain out of a mole hill, as my mom used to say, and instead of just being clean, immediately forgiving.

And then when I forgive and I purpose to love, it immediately takes it to the Lord and I say, “Ok, this is Yours.” The moment I purpose to love and forgive, I give it to Him and it becomes His. Which also gives me the freedom to not have to say a word about the situation. And I’ve had a recent situation where God was just so powerful to me, in such a personal way that He, by giving something completely to Him, I’m realizing it often leaves me nothing to say which is such a gift to the entire situation. If you know me, you’ll know that this is a gift of the entire situation (laughing) of people in my life. But it just is, has been a really great learning and then watching God. God does the miracle. I don’t have to plead and beg and I just listen for His heart; I pray it. I be quiet when He tells me to be quiet. If He does not give me something to say, all I can do is be quiet. And it is… I have found it such a peaceful place to live even in the midst of difficulty. He just comes in such a quiet way and answers in a huge way if I will get out of the way.

How Prayer Impacts the World – Episode #665 – Shulamite Podcast

When you purpose to pray what God gives you to pray, then you will see the impact of that prayer on the world. It may take years but it will be answered! When God Himself initiates prayer in your heart, you can be sure that it will bear fruit in all reality.

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When you purpose to pray what God gives you to pray, then you will see the impact of that prayer on the world. It may take years but it will be answered! When you purpose to pray what God gives you to pray, then you will see the impact of that prayer on the world. It may take years but it will be answered! When God Himself initiates prayer in your heart, you can be sure that it will bear fruit in all reality. Shulamite Ministries clean 11:19
Prayers from the Heart of God – Episode #664 https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayers-heart-of-god/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=prayers-heart-of-god Sat, 24 Aug 2019 09:00:17 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5165 https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayers-heart-of-god/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayers-heart-of-god/feed/ 5 <p>Prayers from the Heart of God Episode #664 8/25/2019 “This podcast was recorded one week prior to Jeffery Epstein being found dead in his prison cell.” With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #663. When God brings a person or situation […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayers-heart-of-god/">Prayers from the Heart of God – Episode #664</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Prayers from the Heart of God
Episode #664
8/25/2019

“This podcast was recorded one week prior to Jeffery Epstein being found dead in his prison cell.”

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel

This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #663.
When God brings a person or situation to your attention, how do you respond? What do you do with it? Are you willing to enlist your heart for God’s prayers?

Jennifer:
It’s become relational with Him and it’s become communal from the sense of prayer. Because what I feel He tells me pray, I pray.

And I told Martha what’s amazing about that is no fear gets in that way. I could spend an hour reading some of the worst stories and right now if you’re involved in the news, they are full of the worst stories. Horrors, absolute occult horrors, and I am utterly unaffected. It doesn’t own me. It doesn’t have me. It doesn’t sit on me. I am rolling it over to Him. I’m putting it at His feet saying, “What’s my… What do You want me to pray? What do I pray in this?” And when I do that, when I’ve, when I’ve, when I’ve prayed and it’s, it’s His, I’m done. I’m free. I, it becomes also obedience. It becomes a way of loving Him in that moment. It is the most basic, I think, engagement with the world around me in, in the broader sense.

And I was telling Martha that I really thought that this was, you know, however we’re meant to do it this was what He’s instilling in me through this, this area of my life which is, maybe because it’s easiest, I don’t know, but this is how I’m meant to take everything.

If a friend calls me up and tells me about a situation in their life and they’re struggling with it, I’m not meant to take that situation into myself, on my own shoulders, to pick up that yoke and fix it. It is not mine to fix. It is not mine to, to own. That is not the deal. That is not friendship. That is not relationship.

And so what He’s doing is not just instilling a discipline of time, my time with Him and how I react to Him when He’s, you know, taking me through different developments in the world or interests that I have, it’s how I’m going to deal with the people in my life; my brothers and sisters, my nieces and nephews, my mom and dad, my friends. This is… It’s not for me to carry. It’s never for me to carry. It’s never on me. I’m not on the throne. It’s not mine to own. Ownership is such a big thing in, in this. It, it’s mine to bring it to Him, to bring it to Him and say, “Lord, here You go! I can’t, I can’t carry this and You didn’t ask me to. You asked me to come so ok, I’m coming. I’m here. I’m a willing vessel. What do You want to say here? What do you want to pray here? I’m in. I’ll do it! Tell me, and I’m going to pray it. If You want me to say something, I’ll say something.” It’s, it’s learning to literally in every moment, with every new development, take it to Him. Roll it to Him to, to make sure that I’m carrying nothing but His yoke. I’m… There is nothing on me but Him.

Martha:
I was just thinking, I’m listening to Derek Prince on prayer on YouTube. And the first thing he said is “Who are the most powerful people in the world?” And he named a president. He named a dictator. He said, “These people are not the most powerful in the world. The most powerful person in the world is the person who can get prayers answered.”

So you went from a discipline of prayer to getting some answers and seeing some things change, didn’t you?

Jennifer:
Yes, yes I did! And they’re kind of big things and I’ll give one example and I’m going to keep it very bare boned because some of these waters are deep waters. Now I don’t take full responsibility for it. I don’t say, “It’s all mine. I am the vessel that made this possible.” But I’ll tell you what, I don’t know whose prayers mine joined to, but I had a hand in it. I played a part and my prayers, the prayers He gave me to pray, the tears He gave me to weep over the situation, mattered. And for a long time nothing happened.

For about three years now I have been praying off and on and weeping over the Jeffery Epstein sex trafficking situation. And quickly, I don’t know how you couldn’t possibly, you couldn’t know, but he was a man who… There were forty or fifty girls in Florida that came forward to the police and said that essentially he was trafficking them. Leave it at that. Thanks to him being very wealthy, very well connected, he served thirteen months in jail where he left every single day to go to his house and do whatever he wanted and he came back at night and slept and then got up the next day and left again. Now that not the jail most people understand.

So in every sense of the word, there was no justice for this man. And then he was done and the Who’s Who of the rich and powerful once again went to dinner parties there. He was not shunned in any way, shape or form even though he was clearly a convicted sex offender. That didn’t matter.

So for years I’ve prayed. I prayed for the girls, who didn’t start out with a lot of advantages in the first place, let alone after this. I’ve prayed for them to find the Lord. I have prayed that this man’s darkness would be brought to the light, such that he could not hide.

The Lord has had me pray many things. Often one word, two word. I feel like I’ve let Him cry in my body over it, because it’s very painful, it’s very dark, it’s very gross, it’s… These are not easy things to look at, let alone engage with in prayer. And I’ve seen the dominos are falling. Years! But in the last two weeks – boom, boom, boom. And this man is now in prison. He has a case before him in New York. The judge has denied him bail. He does not get to skate! And these now-women, once girls, are being heard. They are being seen. And they have a chance to tell a story and to know that they matter.

And is it entirely at my feet? No! The Lord hasn’t told me that. Do I play a part in it? Yes! Yes, I do! Yes, I do! My prayers matter! My prayers matter enormously. In fact I will go far, so far as to say I don’t know that these dominos would have fallen without my prayers. I know that! I don’t know that that would have happened. If I had just been, you know… And that’s, that’s why this matters.

The Lord had me pray over this even before He had established this discipline because this one hit my heart. This one hit my heart. It went in deep and I couldn’t shake it. That… My heart was engaged in this particular story. I can’t say that for all of them across the board but this one I can say that.

But now even if my heart is not engaged in the story, I still have an opportunity to let the Lord in me engage with it. It doesn’t matter if it’s interest, if it’s hit me, if it’s got me worked up, my passion, if it’s any of those things because now if I read about a story, it doesn’t have to have the drama and the agony of the Jeffery Epstein situation.

If the Lord wants to pray a prayer over it, He now has, He now has a willing vessel to do that. I’m all in. I’m all in because I see the fruit. And that is His way of encouraging us, too. I did play a part in the fact that Jeffery Epstein is going down; he’s going down hard, hard – a tornado of human folly and evil.

And we’re not dealing with simple sin here. The man has a private island and there’s a satanic temple on it. These… This is the definition of angels and principalities that we wrestle with. And I didn’t have to know that and I didn’t know most of that for most of the time. I just knew that it was wicked and my heart was engaged. That’s all it took.

Martha:
Well Jennifer, after you told me that I loved you for doing it. I was… Because I, I don’t know the news about that. But the next day, suddenly I realized that one of the burdens of my heart has been sex trafficking and those, the women that are caught in it. And it just really, as you say, it’s been on my heart. I prayed for their souls, and prayed for their liberty. And I have prayed also, “Oh, Father, bring those to justice who are responsible for making this happen.” And I didn’t know the name was Epstein. But I’ve seen, I’ve seen the Hollywood moguls come down over this issue and so, you and I didn’t even really share the prayer about this except in the realm of the Spirit.

And I wanted to tell you that we’ve been together. We’ve been praying the same thing. And I feel so encouraged in the power of that.

Jennifer:
But we have been praying the same thing because we’re been praying what the Spirit gave us to pray.

Martha:
Yes!

Jennifer:
Did He have me pray in more specificity than you? Ok! But it doesn’t matter because we were still praying against the same principalities, the same strongholds of evil.

Martha:
And it actually changed the world.

Jennifer:
Yes, it did!

Martha:
Derek Prince tells the story in his, I think it’s called, Thy King Come is the message on YouTube. In it he tells about one battle of the, of WWII, El Anon or something like that in France that was the turning point of the war. And He had prayed for that particular battle intensely and so were the…I think he told the story of the men were asked to pray. And he said the Lord told him specifically, “That was the answer to your prayer.” He said, “I know I wasn’t alone in praying for that particular battle but God let me know that it was, I was involved in the answer to, in the, in the war.”

And that’s the power given to us as Nothings. That is the disproportionate power given to an insignificant entity. But it’s the power of, of ruling prayer. So that’s my joy to celebrate with you, because you didn’t know that, did you?

Jennifer:
I didn’t know that at all. That is a complete surprise because we did not talk about that. But I feel I need to say this. There are plenty of times over the years where I have prayed what I wanted to pray, where I have asked for things. And there were times when my motive was not good; my motive was selfish. And there were times when, thanks to the Lord and the work that He’s done, I believe I was praying… He had put in my heart and given me passion for something or someone to come through and it had nothing to do with me. But our prayers, yours and mine, were individually ignited; they were born out of individual relationships with the Lord, led individually by the Holy Spirit. This is, this is the, the daily walk.

Yes, we are the body. We are the body. We are, we are together. We are the body. We, we are to have one mind, the mind of Christ. But He’s going to work that out and it’s not going to look the same from person to person. And that’s not a problem because where it counts, it is on the same plane.

So, no! Were our prayers the same? No! But yes they were! Yes, they were! Mine, were, were had a slightly different facet because my heart was different from yours in this, in terms of the specificity of the stories that were… You know what I mean? That is such an encouragement to me, Martha, because what it means is I don’t have to constantly be looking around like, “What’s going on over here and what’s He doing over here because otherwise I have no idea if I’m on the right track.” I can trust that He’s got me on the right track.

Martha:
And that you know what you need to know.

Jennifer:
Yes!

Martha:
Because I only knew the problem. I really didn’t know the things that you knew that were news. But when it started falling and it has been doing so for months now…

Jennifer:
Yes.

Martha:
and being exposed.

Prayers from the Heart of God – Episode #664 – Shulamite Podcast

When God brings a person or situation to your attention, how do you respond? What do you do with it? Are you willing to enlist your heart for God’s prayers? We are not called to simply observe the world around us; we are to rule and reign through Jesus Christ!

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When God brings a person or situation to your attention, how do you respond? What do you do with it? Are you willing to enlist your heart for God's prayers? When God brings a person or situation to your attention, how do you respond? What do you do with it? Are you willing to enlist your heart for God's prayers? We are not called to simply observe the world around us; we are to rule and reign through Jesus Christ! Shulamite Ministries clean 15:19
Your Time Is Your Life – Episode #663 https://shulamitepodcast.com/your-time-your-life/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=your-time-your-life Sat, 17 Aug 2019 09:00:28 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=5162 https://shulamitepodcast.com/your-time-your-life/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/your-time-your-life/feed/ 1 <p>Your Time Is Your Life Episode #663 8/18/2019 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel Martha once said, “Show me how you spend your time and I’ll tell you what you love.” You live your life according to your love, so time and life are linked. Martha: We’re having a delicious little meeting […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/your-time-your-life/">Your Time Is Your Life – Episode #663</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Your Time Is Your Life
Episode #663
8/18/2019

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel

Martha once said, “Show me how you spend your time and I’ll tell you what you love.” You live your life according to your love, so time and life are linked.

Martha:
We’re having a delicious little meeting of the word this morning. I called for it because Jennifer has one of the most amazing testimonies and I wanted her to share it with every one.

But before we begin there, I wanted to say be sure and be reading John’s blogs, Get Along With God. He’s on the subject that is so practical and wonderful and it’s living the moment and knowing that you have everything you need in the moment. And since he’s on that topic I wanted to share how real that can be.

During my husband’s illness, he went through three years of extreme illness of two different things, and one of the things I learned to do with him was to say, “Ok, right this moment you have everything you need.” And he would say, “I do!” And I would remind him of that over and over for those three years and he would get to where he would say, “Ok, I have everything I need at this moment.” And it liberated him from fear and concern and sense of being overwhelmed. It was powerful for him and for me because I too going through it have what I needed just now, just this moment. I don’t have to worry about tomorrow.

So I wanted to just share that because it’s so usable and practical to live in the moment, no matter what crisis is going on. You still have only the supply of this moment. And, of course, it’s when the Lord says, “Give no thought for the morrow for the morrow will take care of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.” And we can’t handle, we’re sheep and we can’t carry a burden but we try to because we’re, some of us are goats! And so we think we can. Goats think they can and they’re, they think they’re wonderful.

So that was the first thing I wanted to share.

The other one is I had a call from a dear friend in another state and, and she said, “Martha, you will have a conference! Do you understand? You will have a conference. There is no if because I’ve been praying for it.” And she said, “I’ve never been able to come to a conference. I’m coming to this one. Just understand I will be there.“ It was so cute and delightful and encouraged me so.

But I went ahead and told her we are pretty, pretty set on having it in Dahlonega. Jennifer says we’ve had a lot of responses of enthusiasm about that and she, she said, “Sounds like a delightful little town.” And it is. And so we’re going to have it in Dahlonega and work out all the details of that. And it looks like it’s going to be in the fall just the right time to be in the mountains when the leaves are turning. We’ll give you more information as soon as we can nail it down.

So I’m changing now to another subject. We’ve been really, intensely learning about forgiving and, and absolute condition—unconditional loving and keeping those… I’m keeping those two things in my heart, present. And it’s had… Though I’ve written a book on forgiveness there’s still a lot to learn and I’m learning. And… But I’m learning to forgive instantly. Because it has to be forgiven, I’m forgiving immediately. And then purposing to love. And I am absolutely amazed how clean I feel with the Lord and before the Lord. It’s a cleansing of me. It’s a keeping in the will of God. The, the command to forgive is absolute; it’s without exception. The command to love is without exception for the believer. And it’s, it’s just… It’s something I think we’re learning as a church and it’s having great power in every life. And it’s keeping me completely free all the time and there’s nothing really to work through or to anguish through. It’s just forgive and love and go.

So I want… Jennifer has a great insight about it so I want to ask her to share.

Jennifer:
When Martha mentioned what she just talked about to me the other day and she was saying how the Lord was taking her ever deeper into forgiveness and how that’s walked out, which He has been doing with all of us. But it kind of sparked in my mind a work He’s been doing in me to establish certain disciplines.

And Martha, you did a message a couple years ago and it’s called For the Sake of the Light. And it is a phenomenal message. In that message you talk about what those disciplines look like in your own life; so what you prayer time, what the Lord brought you to with prayer, how you approached the people in your life in prayer. So the list that you made, the days that you prayed. You begin to show how, how He laid out your, certain parts of your day. And, and you shared that with people so that they would first of all have, you know, a starting place if they had no idea.

But when I heard you talk about it, what it said to me was this is what He’s going to do for me. He’s going to, to establish Himself in my life just as personally as He did with you. And so I don’t know why because I… But I didn’t say it has to look exactly like it does for Martha. What I said was, “These are the priorities.” That’s kind of how I approached it. And said, “What’s she’s telling you here is this is what matters in your life: prayer, time with the Lord, listening, soaking, gazing.” And how He established that in you. And you were very clear that you couldn’t go through your days without that; without that time with Him, without that investment, without the listening, without gazing at Him. You were confirming the scriptures basically, in your own life. Which is really what a testimony is isn’t it. I guess we’re all bound to it.

And so because I was open to that and said, “These are the priorities” I, I didn’t really know what that would look like for me. I knew I would have a morning time but what’s my morning time, you know. What’s involved with that? I don’t know (laugh), you know! And so I had a little more grace for myself than usual. People who know me know that I’m not always so open and just like, “Go ahead, Lord. Do what You want to do in me.” I’m real happy to be locked down actually! Be a little more in control that way and that’s not a sinful rut that I go back to like a dog to its vomit.

But that, that leads me to the mind and my insatiable desire to know; my stronghold of knowing. And the Lord’s broken. He has done such a work through Martha, through John, through my mom. Through anybody in my life, you know, at one point or another. I have been loved enough to be confronted and, and prayed for. And I don’t know what’s left but I have absolute belief in His, in His work and the work that’s He’s done. And it, it has been an obsession, it has been an addiction, like a stronghold. That has, that’s a little bit of church jargon. And so there’s a little bit of distancing with it, I think. You know, “Oh, I have a stronghold of this,” you know. Well, let’s not be medieval. Let’s be honest about what it was. It took my time. It’s where I spent my time, ok? That insatiable lust to know! What that looks like for me anyway, was hours, upon hours reading books – sometimes fiction, lots of time non-fiction. Trying to figure things out. News, going from blog sites to newspapers to magazines to new channels. This is where my time was invested. This is where my life was invested. That’s what a stronghold looks like in the practical. It is your life!

And part of the breaking of that stronghold was this year. I fasted from any and all news, random knowledge even, for…what did it end up being? It was like thirty-five days. Cold turkey (laughs). And the first week, the first five days were rough. It was rough! It is no joke when you have built your life around something and then God comes and smashes that altar down, that idol is removed. It is disorienting, it is, it affects you on an almost physical level. But by the second week I, I was sleeping better. I was… I mean I didn’t realize how tied my life was to the elements of fear and control and bitterness and frustration and rage. I mean it’s amazing how many things I had been opening the door to and feeding in my life through that lust for knowledge.

Martha gave me carte blanche to kind of go into that. I think that that gives a clear enough picture. Yes?

So anyway what I told Martha was about one of the places that the Lord is, is establishing a new discipline in my life and that is in my intake of facts and figures from the world around me. I used to do it serve me, to serve my idol, whatever. But it had nothing to do with God. And I don’t have the compulsion to go running around online, to spend hours upon hours. But I do still go and look and see and read. But what’s interesting now is, you know, there are some voices that are just gone from my life. I have no desire to listen to them anymore, to read them anymore. Some newspapers I don’t check in on. I don’t ask. I think it’s fine.

But what the Lord has done is when I’m reading these stories, I’m reading these developments, I’m not reading it just to read it. I’m taking it to Him and saying, “Ok, what do You want to pray over this? What are Your thoughts on this? What…  this even matter? Do I even keep this or do I just ask You flush it out my left ear?” You know. It’s become, I don’t know, it’s become relational with Him and it’s become communal from the sense of prayer. Because what I feel He tells me pray, I pray.

And I told Martha what’s amazing about that is no fear gets in that way. I could spend an hour reading some of the worst stories and right now if you’re involved in the news, they are full of the worst stories. Horrors, absolute occult horrors, and I am utterly unaffected. It doesn’t own me. It doesn’t have me. It doesn’t sit on me. I am rolling it over to Him. I’m putting it at His feet saying, “What’s my… What do You want me to pray? What do I pray in this?” And when I do that, when I’ve, when I’ve, when I’ve prayed and it’s, it’s His, I’m done. I’m free. I, it becomes also obedience. It becomes a way of loving Him in that moment. It is the most basic, I think, engagement with the world around me in, in the broader sense.

Your Time Is Your Life – Episode #663 – Shulamite Podcast

Martha once said, “Show me how you spend your time and I’ll tell you what you love.” You live your life according to what you love, so your time and your life are linked. What do you do with your time and where does God fit into it? Does He take part?

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Martha once said, "Show me how you spend your time and I'll tell you what you love." You live your life according to your love, so time and life are linked. Martha once said, "Show me how you spend your time and I'll tell you what you love." You live your life according to what you love, so your time and your life are linked. What do you do with your time and where does God fit into it? Does He take part? Shulamite Ministries clean 15:16