Shulamite Podcast mp3 https://shulamitepodcast.com The Shulamite Podcast is a weekly conversation on discovering God & encouraging believers into deeper relationship with the Lord by Shulamite Ministries. Sat, 11 Aug 2018 10:17:16 +0000 en hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 The Shulamite Podcast .mp3 is weekly conversations encouraging believers into deeper relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. We explore the practical side of discipleship and discover God together in Body life. Shulamite Ministries clean Shulamite Ministries john@shulamitepodcast.com john@shulamitepodcast.com (Shulamite Ministries) © Shulamite Ministries Come experience anointed audio messages - not giving just another method, but a living impartation. Shulamite Podcast mp3 http://shulamitepodcast.com/wp-content/themes/Shulacast/images/Shulamite-Podcast-mp3.jpg https://shulamitepodcast.com TV-G Weekly Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven – Episode #610 https://shulamitepodcast.com/keys-to-the-kingdom-of-heaven/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=keys-to-the-kingdom-of-heaven Sat, 11 Aug 2018 09:00:54 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4738 https://shulamitepodcast.com/keys-to-the-kingdom-of-heaven/#respond https://shulamitepodcast.com/keys-to-the-kingdom-of-heaven/feed/ 0 <p>Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven Episode #610 8-12-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow What are the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus gave to the church in Matthew 18? Is the church using them as Christ intended or are we out of line? Martha: We’ve had a project going on for a […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/keys-to-the-kingdom-of-heaven/">Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven – Episode #610</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven
Episode #610
8-12-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

What are the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus gave to the church in Matthew 18? Is the church using them as Christ intended or are we out of line?

Martha:
We’ve had a project going on for a little while that has taken a long time to get to and I’ll let John tell that story. I’m working with Jennifer on a booklet and it’s going to be an eBook isn’t it, John?

John:
Yeah, well originally it was made as a CD of the Month back in, actually, 2008 (correction: December 2002). And it was the very first CD of the Month.

Martha:
Really? I didn’t know that.

John:
Yeah, it’s the very first one and it was released back in 2008 and we’re on number this month, we’re on 189 CD’s of the Month. Every single month…

Martha:
Goodness!

John:
…boom, boom, boom, boom. It’s just been amazing. You’re a wealth, is what you are. And, but we want to do is we want to turn these messages into booklets because they’re precious and we want to, you know, just get that message out there in a different format and so we’re going to get this as Kindle Books. And hopefully do that real soon here. We’re working on it right now. Jennifer, you and I are working on it.

Martha:
Well, you’ve wanted this done for a long time, John. You have liked that message and I’ve sort of resisted it. But Lori Thomas was in the office the other day and she read the transcript and she raved about it and Jennifer’s raved about it. So it’s ignited a little bit of life and love in me for that message. But I’m on a whole different, whole new aspect of it. It’s partially in there but I’ve got so much more to say about it. And it’s— Shall I just jump in and…? Ok.

It’s really an amazing thing that God want us to rule and reign with Christ and He wants us to learn in this life how to overcome, how to rule and reign. And I’ve done several conferences on that subject because I see it so clearly in the scriptures. But I’ve got a really precious treasure now because it’s called the Keys of the Kingdom and it has to do with ruling and reigning. But I just want to say first… I want to read from Isaiah 9, one of my very favorite passages.

Isaiah 9:6-7 AMPC
For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given. And His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father [of Eternity], Prince of Peace.

And this statement: “of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end.”

John:
I hate that that scripture is relegated to Christmas.

Martha:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

John:
Because it’s not a…

Martha:
Oh, no…

John:
…it’s not a Christmas only story. It goes so far beyond that.

Martha:
So it means that the government, which is unseen, unrecognized and most of the, mostly not believed in. The kingdom is functioning in the midst of this chaotic, sick world and that government, even in this, life Christ has put in our hands. It’s incredible!

John:
We’re called to reign and rule now.

Martha:
Um hmm.

John:
And that’s, that’s phenomenal. I can get it that we’re going to reign and rule with Him in heaven but to actually bring the kingdom here to earth now. That’s, that’s the thing that you have to struggle with.

Martha:
Um hmm. I wrote about it a little bit in Altogether Forgiven, that in, it’s in Matthew 18. Matthew 16 and 18. After Peter has had the revelation that Jesus is the Son of God, He says to them which I will go into it in the manuscript somewhat, that “I will give you the keys of the kingdom.” Now keys mean…are exciting. The keys are authority and keys mean you open and you shut, you lock and you unlock. It’s an authority that He has that He wants to share with us. And that’s incredible! I would have settled for so much less than that, wouldn’t you, John?

John:
Absolutely.

(Martha laughing)

John:
Absolutely!

Martha:
And, but what we’re going to learn in this life is incredible. And just making that willingness toward the Lord that you want to be involved in ruling and reigning, you want to learn it, is to have a whole lot of things opened up to you that are real exciting. So He was saying this to Peter and He said, “You are pebble” – not rock – “and on this I will build My church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.” So I go into all that. But the interesting thing is that He’s not, He doesn’t say that Peter is the rock of the church. He really reduces him to a little pebble. Each of us is just a pebble in the kingdom, a very important one but only that. The church doesn’t rest on any one but Jesus. The church… It is His church He will build. So when He was addressing Peter, He was giving the keys of the kingdom to those disciples present and to all disciples afterwards.

John:
Remember when we were in the Vatican and the statue, when you come out of the end of the museum part of it, and you remember the statue up there of Peter, real pretty, gorgeous statue of Peter with the keys.

Martha:
No, I don’t remember that.

John:
Oh, I loved it. It was a beau—

Martha:
Did you take a picture of it?

John:
I did, I did. I put a picture in the podcast. It was really cool. But he was given the keys and he gave the keys to the—

Martha:
I didn’t get it while we were there. We’ll have to go back.

John:
Ha, yeah.

Martha:
Of course. I was so smitten with David and the Pieta that I didn’t, I missed that one. So thank you. But it’s given to you and me. We are the church. We are His, those who are just His disciples and followers, He gives the keys. And it’s in two scriptures. One is Matthew 16 and the other is Matthew 18. So Jesus repeats. Matthew records it twice. I’m going to read from 18. This… I’m going to read from the Amplified, but this is a controversial scripture and it’s translated in some places in error and it changes the whole meaning of it. So you really have to stick with the accurate translation in this, this one. He’s, in the context, He’s taking about confrontation with a brother who wrongs you and if he pays no attention to you, and he won’t listen you, or to someone else then let him be to you as a pagan and a tax collector. But then I realized that there’s a remedy to that that’s given following it. It’s a call to prayer, to authoritative prayer. And he says, Matthew quotes Jesus saying,

Matthew 18:18-20 AMPC Truly I tell you, whatever you forbid and declare to be improper and unlawful on earth must be what is already forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit and declare proper and lawful on earth must be what is already permitted in heaven. If two of you on earth agree (harmonize together, make a symphony together) whatever [anything and everything] they may ask, it will come to pass and be done for them by My Father in heaven. So where two or three are gathered together there I am in the midst.

But what it means is, John, that it has to function as a corporate entity. Independently, I believe you can exercise this but when it comes to significant things, we have to come together as a church and come to agreement. But what we have to come to agreement about is what is decided in heaven. We can’t decide anything.

John:
Yeah, that’s the temptation is to believe that what you declare bound is bound and what you declare loosed is loose. But you just read it very clearly, it’s not, it’s not…

Martha:
It’s, it doesn’t rest on…

John:
…based on my opinion…

Martha:
No!

John:
…on my anything, really!

Martha:
Insight…

John:
No.

Martha:
…reason, even revelation.

John:
It’s my hearing, my faith, and my proclaiming what…

Martha:
What He has decided.

John:
…He has—

Martha:
We rule what, His rule.

John:
Wow!

Martha:
We, we bring to earth what He is doing in heaven. So it’s huge on, because of this. It means you have to be in touch with heaven.

John:
He is the Head and…

Martha:
Yes…

John:
…and you have to be in touch with heaven.

Martha:
That’s right.

John:
Hmm.

Martha:
Everything must come down.

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The Song in Our Determined Purpose – Episode #609 https://shulamitepodcast.com/song-our-determined-purpose/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=song-our-determined-purpose Sat, 04 Aug 2018 09:00:36 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4708 https://shulamitepodcast.com/song-our-determined-purpose/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/song-our-determined-purpose/feed/ 1 <p>The Song in Our Determined Purpose Episode #609 8-5-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #605. When you make it your determined purpose to know God, He will put a song in your heart even in the midst of sickness and great difficulty. That’s who […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/song-our-determined-purpose/">The Song in Our Determined Purpose – Episode #609</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> The Song in Our Determined Purpose
Episode #609
8-5-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #605.
When you make it your determined purpose to know God, He will put a song in your heart even in the midst of sickness and great difficulty. That’s who He is!

Martha:
There’s a song on YouTube, “In Christ Alone.” If you go there, it’ll bring up – and put that in – it will bring up a number of people doing it. There’s a young man in a gray shirt performing that, that is outstanding. I don’t remember his name. He’s performing it at some place. It wasn’t a famous man at all but the way he sings it is… And the words of it are just absolutely wonderful.

John:
I’ll try to put a link in the transcript here.

Martha:
Ok, good! I’ll just share this. I have been spending my time with the Lord in a lot of worship music and it is restoring my soul. I find that no matter what I’m doing, those songs are playing in my heart as if it was a recorder. And I hear it but I’m not doing it. I’m not aware of it. I’m doing, living my life but that worship has sustained me in this and it’s just been an incredible experience. Because the thing you do when you’re sick is you don’t do anything to help yourself. You just, you feel too bad (laughs).

John:
Yeah.

Martha:
And you don’t take…I don’t take vitamins when I don’t feel good…

John:
You don’t drink.

Martha:
…when I need them desperately. Yeah, I don’t drink water. All the things that you could do to feel better, you don’t have the energy to. But this one thing the Lord is given me to connect me with Him and it has been so incredible and so ongoing. It’s put a song in my heart in the middle of all this sickness. And that song plays. And I’ve said to the Lord, “Lord, I can’t sing to You very much. You sing to me.”

John:
Wow!

Martha:
“I need You to sing to me about You.” And He’s doing it. Literally, John, I wake up in the morning and there’s a song playing; one of in about four or five songs. And it’s, it’s… There’s a song in my heart that He has put there just by making the feeblest effort to listen to the music, and the words are just so impacting me.

John:
It’s beautiful! But it’s because you have a determined purpose to know Him.

Martha:
Is it really? Oh, goody! It’s happening then.

John:
Well, that is your determined purpose. That’s why you’re doing it.

Martha:
Oh, wow!

John:
Are you not?

Martha:
Oh, wow! So though I should be very, very weak, I’m not. He is… That is His, that is the way. I just listen and it captures me to worship. It captures me to join. I just turn it on. I just keep the little teeny iPod with me and it’s transforming. It’s, in any situation we are in. I wish I had known this years ago how powerful it was and, to just worship Him and hear music and listen to the words that people write who are inspired by the Holy Spirit. Ah, it’s just lovely. I could just do that the rest of my life. And we have such free access to wonderful, wonderful music, too.

John:
You are listening to some serious depth things, some wonderful, you know, songs that have a message behind it. It’s not just three words and then a chorus and a chorus and a chorus and a chorus and three words and a chorus and a chorus and a chorus, which for me is just blech!

Martha:
And I’m not even listening altogether to hymns. I’m listening to what’s being, what’s been written in the last twenty years.

John:
Wow!

Martha:
And the hymns I grew up on in the Methodist Church. Oh, the hymns are just dear to me. And I do listen to them. But this, this is new revelation, new music that’s come and some of it’s back in the seventies but to me it’s brand new.

John:
That one that you were mentioning earlier that we read the…

Martha:
The Love of God.

John:
Is that new?

Martha:
No! That one is not new.

John:
That’s old.

Martha:
I don’t think… I think that’s older but Fernando sings it and so does Kelly Minter, I believe. A number of people sing that. I happen to like Ortega because he’s quiet.

John:
Um hmm, um hmm.

Martha:
He calms you with it. There’s one that I don’t have on my iPod but I go listen to her—Audrey Assad. And she has several beautiful songs she’s written. And one of them is “How Can I Keep from Singing” and she talks about the troubles on earth.

John:
Hmm!

Martha:
And in spite of that how can I keep from singing? And just beautiful words. And she does some classics, too, like “Abide With Me.” That was… In early childhood, I must have been less than 10, I would hear that song and I understood what it meant. It really, it really ministered to me that God would abide with me. I was asking God to abide with me. And, and I had many… In the hymns, that is part of my earliest knowledge of God was the hymns that affected me and I didn’t know it was the Holy Spirit. This has been such fun, John. This has been rich and revelatory.

John:
And resurrection from the dead!

(Laughter)

Martha:
Absolutely! How can anybody but you comprehend that’s what just happened!

John:
Good grief, this was, this has been between a CD of the Month and several podcasts. This is amazing.

Martha:
He is faithful. And I wasn’t even aware of it changing in me. I didn’t even notice that I had energy. I love it! He’s forcing me to live in weakness so that His power can manifest. And I’m going to accept it one day and then He’ll have to… Then it will be just be a way of life.

John:
And He’s doing it because you have determined.

Martha:
I have determined. Oh, my goodness, that’s powerful!

John:
It’s your determined purpose and that’s why He’s doing it.

Martha:
Um hmm. It, I chose it. That’s what I wanted to say all along here. He’s not doing anything. It might be chastening. It might be punishment. It might be whatever. But He’s not doing it to get at me or to hurt me. He’s doing it because I gave Him permission. “I want to know You in Your suffering, in Your dying.”  I want to fill up what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ. That’s what I’ve chosen so I don’t… I can’t object and resent because I know I chose this. I want Him to get it all out of me. I want to be, my body to be illumined with no dark part, and He’s heard that.

John:
And He’s doing it.

Martha:
And He’s doing it. And I am not wronged. I am being carefully groomed to meet Him and I won’t be able to bear it if I don’t. But you linked it to saying giving thanks and that is fantastic.

John:
Well, this has been fun. Thank you!

Martha:
Fun and heavenly and glorious!

John:
Absolutely.

Martha:
Thank you! I was about to say, “Thank you, John, for being willing to share and enriching us.”

John:
And also stepping aside. (Laughing) Letting your fire…

Martha:
Well, you may remember you had taken me somewhere when Kenneth was in, my husband was in a nursing home, you had taken me to get out a minute, get something to eat.

John:
In the hospice, yeah.

Martha:
He was in the hospice. And I told you that God told me to step aside and let Him minister to Kenneth, that I was a priest unto the Lord. That’s what you’re doing and it solved it for me but it also grieved me, because it meant that I had to let God have Kenneth to the last breath and the last moment. And I, I wanted to help and I wanted to be there for Him. And I was, day and night.

John:
Absolutely, you were.

Martha:
But I wanted to do more for him and God said, “He’s Mine! And this time is Mine with him.”

John:
Wow!

Martha:
And He gave me permission to be helpless anyway. That was permission, to relive me of what I felt was my responsibility to comfort him, to whatever. And I did that, but essentially God had me step aside from the most, one of the most important moments of my life.

John:
And the most important moment of his life.

Martha:
Of his life, and because I knew it was for his good, Kenneth’s good, I grieved and begged Him, “Ok, get me…get me where You want me.”

John:
But see, there again you go back to what I said. It… You were not unaffected.

Martha:
And not it, not absent either.

John:
You weren’t absent. You weren’t cool. You weren’t… It completely impacted you.

Martha:
Yes, yes!

John:
The dichotomy and the paradox.

Martha:
I don’t know how to tell this or not. So you may want to take it off. But I slept on a cot in his room and the nurses would check in on him every night, through the night. And he was, by that time, in a coma or in a deep sleep and I was utterly exhausted. Because it had been a years and a half, two years that we’d been going through it and I was utterly exhausted. I would always wake up when they came in the room but I knew that they were just turning him or whatever. So the, this last night they came in the room, a little murmuring going on, very typical, and then the things they were doing to help him, and they came over to me and said, “He’s gone.” And I had not been there when he passed away. And so I leaped out of the bed and, you know, what… We had to start doing things then. But I was real grieved about that. “God, I wanted to be there when he, when he drew his last breath.” And the Lord said, “That was Mine, too.”

John:
You were there but you weren’t there.

Martha:
I wasn’t there. “That was Mine, too. That was not yours. I’m his God.”

John:
Wow!

Martha:
And so I came to peace with it because I didn’t know there was a difference in their movement in the room. And I was awake. They woke me up but I didn’t think anything different was going on. But then they came over and said, “He’s gone.” And I wasn’t, I wasn’t awake to it nor was it mine to be. So we, He’s brilliant. If we will let Him keep us where we shouldn’t be and be where we should be, then everything is perfect and my conscience was clear. I didn’t fail him and I didn’t fail God. It’s possible I could have failed them both. But I failed neither and so I had peace, much peace in my widowhood and in the days following. That’s a little personal item.

John:
It’s a precious story.

The Song in Our Determined Purpose – Episode #609 – Shulamite Podcast

When you make it your determined purpose to know God, He will put a song in your heart even in the midst of sickness and great difficulty. That’s who He is! This is God the glorious Father, and we need to know Him. What wonders do we miss when we don’t?

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When you make it your determined purpose to know God, He will put a song in your heart even in the midst of sickness and great difficulty. That's who He is! When you make it your determined purpose to know God, He will put a song in your heart even in the midst of sickness and great difficulty. That's who He is! This is God the glorious Father, and we need to know Him. What wonders do we miss when we don't? Shulamite Ministries clean 13:37
Our Determined Purpose and the Story of Job – Episode #608 https://shulamitepodcast.com/determined-purpose-job/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=determined-purpose-job Sat, 28 Jul 2018 09:00:51 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4700 https://shulamitepodcast.com/determined-purpose-job/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/determined-purpose-job/feed/ 2 <p>Our Determined Purpose and the Story of Job Episode #608 7-29-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #605. If it is your determined purpose to know God, even your suffering will serve that end, just like Job. Just to glimpse the Mystery of God takes […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/determined-purpose-job/">Our Determined Purpose and the Story of Job – Episode #608</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Our Determined Purpose and the Story of Job
Episode #608
7-29-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #605.
If it is your determined purpose to know God, even your suffering will serve that end, just like Job. Just to glimpse the Mystery of God takes a lifetime!

John:
I just…if we can have our determined purpose…don’t you just have to choose? Don’t you just have to make the choice?

Martha:
It’s a choice and you commit to the choice. That’s what determine means. Determine means “I’m going to do this.” It’s more than choice and it has to be more than choice. And really, if you have any incentive toward it at all, it’s the Holy Spirit, anyway, prompting you. So…and if you don’t have it, you can ask the Spirit. The invitation is open to every born again believer, every, everybody.

John:
So if it’s His life to perform, but you’re saying that there is more than just the choice.

Martha:
Yeah, it’s a commitment to the choice. It’s a passion. It’s a desire. It’s a yearning, a longing. What you are describing, John, is that you’re, you’re behind the Shepherd not in front of Him. You are following the Lamb and it is Jesus the Lamb that is manifesting in you.

I know what I was trying to remember. Years ago I said in my enthusiasm, “Oh, Lord, I just want to know You.” And He said, “Get out of My way and you will know Me through your own body.” And I learned, I learned to… Someone said the other day something very grateful and very complimentary and I said, “None of that was me. I’m not capable of it. It was not Martha.” And she said, “I know!” But it really, really wasn’t. I’m not capable of looking like Him at any point in time. But that’s what you’re… You’re letting the Shepherd reveal who He is to you by letting Him be in you (laughs). Did that make sense?

John:
Yeah, absolutely to me. Absolutely!

Martha:
And I can see it on your countenance. You’re, you are behind Him. You are watching for Him and waiting for Him. Actually you are not focused on me that much. You are focused on He, what He sees about me. You are looking through His eyes. That’s what it seems to me you’re doing.

John:
Well, ok. And here’s the dichotomy. I am looking at you. I am…it is a, it, I’m watching. But you’re right. I’m not, I’m not watching… John’s not watching.

Martha:
Humanly you’re not…

John:
I’m not humanly watching. Because I would, I would see something and then say, “Oh, well, let’s fix it.” But you are right. I am! I’m standing behind Him saying, “Where are we going?”

Martha:
Where are You going in my body? (laughs)

John:
Absolutely!

Martha:
It’s obvious because you’re not, you’re not really… You’re terribly involved but you’re really not involved. You’re a watchman and a watchman watches. But you’re not, you’re not entangled with it. It’s amazing. I’m, I’m getting to know Him by watching you watch me (laughs).

John:
But you know something? In that it’s not like my heart isn’t affected. It isn’t that I remain cold or distant.

Martha:
Oh yeah. That’s true.

John:
You know, you could take that into supper spiritual realm and then you could say, “Oh, ok, well I’m just going to blah blah blah blah.” No.

Martha:
That’s not it.

John:
I am affected.

Martha:
And you are suffering with me with Him.

John:
Yes! But I…Yes! That’s exactly it.

Martha:
I’m glad you put that because that’s crucial. You are involved. You are not NOT involved. He’s using…

John:
That’s the dichotomy.

Martha:
Right!

John:
That you are completely involved and you’re not the life.

Martha:
Um hmm, well said!

John:
My life is in the heavens but I am affected.

Martha:
Um hmm.

John:
There’s the paradox…what you…

Martha:
Paradox!

John:
Yeah, you always say the paradox that two things held that are…

Martha:
Truth is always two things.

John:
That appear to be opposites.

Martha:
Um hmm, and even contradictory.

John:
And contradictory.

Martha:
How can it be you and not you? How can it be Him and not you? It is! It’s a mystery. It’s how it works.

John:
So that’s how I would answer.

Martha:
Um hmm.

John:
She has to determine to know but she also has to get out of the way and let Him live. It, it…

Martha:
You have to participate in His sufferings in your own body. Oh, this is the revelation that I didn’t tell on the Tape of the Month!

John:
Well, hallelujah!

Martha:
In pursuit…I’ve been pursuing… (laughter) Oh this is, this is good!

John:
Easter eggs!

Martha:
Yeah! I’ve been pursuing the issue of knowing God. I’ve been going through the scriptures. Been reading some things by Sparks that are fantastic and just been brooding and brooding, and praying and praying over the knowledge of God. As I was waking up one morning last week, suddenly I understood the whole book of Job. I’d never understood it before. Now I’ve written about it, so I had an inkling. But I really didn’t comprehend the big story and I saw the big story, John. It began with God saying to Satan, “Have you seen Job, my perfect man? Go get him and stop here. You can only do this much.” Which tells us that God uses Satan in His, as His, in His purposes. Mystery! I find it perfectly acceptable. So Satan goes and wipes out his family. Very drastic picture of loss. His friends come and they accuse him of things that he’s not guilty of because God called him perfect. And they go on, lecture him endlessly and there are some jewels in their lecture that I’ve picked up and the Lord’s given me.

And the thing that I couldn’t but admire about Job was he never would admit that his relationship with God was…it was about that. It couldn’t be about that because he knew he was faithful to God. He knew he was obedient and though he sounded like a proud man he was simply defending what he knew. He defended his relationship with God as valid, whole, and intact and it was despite…did he have four friends? Eliphaz and Gobbledygoop?

John:
It was, yeah, the three…uh huh. (laughter)

Martha:
And they all spoke endless lectures of him that goes on for chapters. And then, then Job questions God, which we, we can do.

John:
Gobbledygoop? His friend Gobbledygoop. He was the worst. Yeah, Gobbledygoop was the worst. (laughter)

Martha:
So…then he begins to talk to God and ask Him, “Why? What have I done?” And it’s what you do when you, when you lose. You say, “What have I done?”

John:
Um hmm.

Martha:
“I don’t know of anything I’ve done!” And he talks to him and then God answers and God says, “Were you there when the deer gives birth?” Or “Were you there when the earth was formed?” And He gives Job His own lecture.

John:
Um hmm.

Martha:
But Job says, “I tremble! I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear but now I see you and I know You.” The whole thing was to bring him to the knowledge of God, John. He was a man who pleased God and in order to get him to need God, Job to need Him, He had to reduce him. I don’t understand that entirely, why that’s necessary. I would think there would be an easier way but there never is. Job the perfect man had to be crushed and wounded by God so that he could see Him.

We can’t really see Him. Do you know I really believe we’re all supposed to see Him perhaps not in visual form in this life but we have the privilege, it’s ours, to see Him. I can say I’ve seen Him as who He is. Not remotely enough; a speck of a quarter of a piece of sand. It’s all I know. But we are supposed to see Him and God wanted Job to know Him as He was and so He had him questioned about the identity of God and his relationship.

John:
Um hmm.

Martha:
He put him through that grilling, that tedious grilling.

John:
Jesus!

Martha:
But it was for the glory of God before those friends because in the end He said, “You go and get some cows and sacrifice them before Me with your friend…

John:
Gobbledygoop?

Martha:
Yeah! (laughter) And then he will pray for you and you will be healed. He put, He vindicated Job by putting him in a position over his friends and by requiring that they need him to get to God. That was the end of it. God…Job came to know God. That was God’s intention of all the suffering. It’s His intention for every suffering, just like you’re saying, that we are supposed to know Him through suffering. And we just demonstrated it in our, your life and my life where you inserting my, me and my infirmity and my time of wilderness where I can’t cook. I really can’t do much and so it’s all being done for me, by you and others. And we just demonstrated that’s it’s all to know God. And hopefully…we are all like, we’re all like that. If you were of a lowly mind when you hear Billy Graham has Parkinson’s, you would say as Job’s friends, “Well, there must be something wrong with him or God would never do that to Billy Graham.” Well, God did and Billy Graham is, I am sure, a favorite of God if there is favorites. And Billy Graham understood perfectly why: so he would know God as his everything.

John:
And it was proved by how he responded to it. It wasn’t…

Martha:
Right, John!

John:
…with sour grapes, it wasn’t…

Martha:
It wasn’t with bitterness and resistance!

John:
…with bitterness and resistance. No!

Martha:
It was acceptance.

John:
He knew!

Martha:
Because he…his determined purpose was to know God, no matter what the cost. That proved to be his determined purpose, didn’t it?

John:
Um hmm, absolutely!

Martha:
I’ll never stop talking about him.

John:
It’s amazing because of what it stated. There’s a deep message, deeper than the salvation messages he gave at the crusades. There’s a deep message behind that. There’s a richness behind a man that is so surrendered to God and His sovereignty and His sovereign hand and His will and His ways. The ways of God are scary.

Martha:
Um hmm.

John:
And he was surrendered to it because he, the…

Martha:
Because he knew God!

John:
That was probably his deepest message.

Martha:
Oh, wow! Yes, it reveals the man.

John:
It does reveal the man.

Martha:
I’ve been given two 3-inch thick books about Billy Graham. One of them is a biography and the other is about the pure prophet and I can’t wait to get in it, to get to know him. And it’s probably going to be very simple. His life was reduced to great simplicity even though it was a complex life. I believe his, his way of functioning is very simple. It’s very easy. When you eliminate all the religious stuff and the, and the law of I shoulds and I can’t and I woulds and I, I shall. All the complexities we lay on it by our self-focus. But when it’s just Jesus, it’s very simple.

Our Determined Purpose and the Story of Job – Episode #608 – Shulamite Podcast

If you make it your determined purpose to know God, all of your suffering will serve that purpose. As illustrated in a beautiful revelation of Job and his great suffering, it takes a lifetime just to glimpse a small part of the great Mystery of God!

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Watching God Be a Good Shepherd – Episode #607 https://shulamitepodcast.com/watching-god-good-shepherd/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=watching-god-good-shepherd Sat, 21 Jul 2018 09:00:42 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4698 https://shulamitepodcast.com/watching-god-good-shepherd/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/watching-god-good-shepherd/feed/ 2 <p>Watching God Be a Good Shepherd Episode #607 7-22-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #605. In times of trouble or difficulty, whether it’s personal or that of a loved one, are we looking at God? Are we watching the Good Shepherd love His sheep? […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/watching-god-good-shepherd/">Watching God Be a Good Shepherd – Episode #607</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Watching God Be a Good Shepherd
Episode #607
7-22-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #605.
In times of trouble or difficulty, whether it’s personal or that of a loved one, are we looking at God? Are we watching the Good Shepherd love His sheep?

Martha:
One of the things I told was that repentance takes you to the knowledge of God. And at this time we are… There is so much repentance going on. It’s so intense and beautiful and cleansing and I feel like He’s beginning with His house first. He’s cleaning and cleansing His House and that’s… I believe if we knew what was going on in the realm of the Spirit’s rule that we would be astonished at the repentance that’s going on. I’m… I believe it’s very intense visitation of the Spirit to prepare us for His coming and for the times preceding His coming.

John:
I love what you say in The Coming One: It’s not what is coming, it’s Who.

Martha:
And the Who! Everything… I didn’t say this in the tape but I can say it here, that everything, you say everything is God, everything is about who, not what, not when. I’m not interested so much in when. We don’t know when, but we can know Who. And the question in every situation is “Who are You?” I just spoke with someone about a very bad situation and I said, “But we don’t know His mind. We need to stop and ask His view, His word, His insight about this situation and then we’ll know how to proceed. Then we’ll know how to pray.” But listening has to come first. And I believe that everybody would agree that the earth is groaning and the earth is trembling and breaking. The volcanoes in Hawaii! I read that there was a volcano becoming active in New England. I don’t know anything about that.

John:
I don’t know either.

Martha:
And the storms of last year, the tornados were… I watched the damage. This was from a Christian site talking about the increase of catastrophe is phenomenal. It was phenomenal five years ago. Much more now! And the devastation of those tornados in last year was incredible. We’ve got to be walking so intimately with Him that we will be in the right place at the right time and in His will, kept by Him in His will. I am about to write… People that are our close…about this and if I get an anointing, I will do a Message of the Month on that, too, because I believe it. I believe the earth is groaning to see the manifestation of the Sons of God.

John:
Someone asked me yesterday, they said, “When you are having to witness someone go through sickness, illness, the Lord’s hand of trials where He’s kind of making way for Himself and clearing out the decks which is always painful, how are we to respond? How are we to deal with it, and, as a witness of that work?”

Martha:
And you would be the expert on that!

John:
Well I’m currently going through it and I told her that. I said, “Yeah, I literally am in that right now.” And if I go back to what we originally started this podcast with, is that it is our determined purpose to know Him and if we know that that is the purpose, and if we look to Him to be the purpose in that, if we thank Him for revealing Himself, and clearing the deck so He can reveal Himself, I think that that’s the biggest thing. I know that when you are in the middle of it, when you are in the throes of it you can get into fear, you can get into heartache; you can get your feelings hurt. And you can…

Martha:
You can get hurt with God at times.

John:
Yeah!

Martha:
That’s what you meant.

John:
Yeah. Um hmm. But He, if He is revealing Himself in every single situation, then you are laying your trust and your faith in that and you are laying your trust and faith in Him, and that faith brings Him pleasure; not my endurance, not my determined to survive it…

Martha:
Goodness!

John:
Or my goodness. It’s literally to determine to know Him.

Martha:
You have a blog that’s out today. What is the date today? 3rd July?

John:
Yeah.

Martha:
And it’s talking about serving another person and you have come to know Him by watching me suffer and serving the Lord for me. You, but your reward is you see Him.

John:
I am unable to do anything in the situation. I’ve been unable, I’ve been, you know, I’ve had the ability to listen and do what He says, you know. I’ve had the ability to watch but what I’ve really watched is Him minister to You.

Martha:
Really? Oh, my goodness!

John:
Because that’s all there’s been.

Martha:
Um hmm.

John:
I would have frustration with it because I’m saying, “Ok, what are You doing. Why are You not moving You’re…” It’s been aggregating, but I’ve watched Him. He said, “I need you to grab this and this and this for me.”

Martha:
At the store?

John:
At the store. And then I came and brought it and then it was perfect. It was utterly perfect.

Martha:
So you’re knowing Him on your side and you are watching Him on my side. So you are getting to know Him. You are getting rich.

John:
I am getting rich but it is not without…it is costly. It is not without pain.

Martha:
It’s harder! I know that experience. It’s, it is more painful to watch someone suffer and be unable to do anything than to suffer yourself.

John:
I think the biggest thing would be as to determine, have my determined purpose to know Him but also to hear Him, because I have to hear Him about you. I have to hear Him about how I am to respond.

Martha:
Well, when I injured my eye, which I tell about in the tape, I was going to let it be and you took one look at it and you said, “No, this is just hideous.”

John:
Absolutely not!

Martha:
“Absolutely not.” I probably would have gotten in real big trouble…

John:
Yeah, it would’ve been bad.

Martha:
…if you hadn’t heard God because we wait to hear God about doctors and so I knew that you had heard.

John:
And we had talked about that on the blog, actually. About, you know, about health and health crisis and health, being your health care, you know or Him being your health care. And…

Martha:
You have let Him be, too, John. You let Him be the source of who you are in this situation with me. You’ve had, and I recognize Him in your indwelling, His indwelling in you. Your subject of life is Christ in me the hope of glory.

John:
Um hmm.

Martha:
And He is manifesting through you that you don’t even realize. It’s so natural. I’m watching Him as a servant. I’m watching Him as a friend. He is my friend in you. He is my leader in you. He is, He is… I’m watching His servant hood in you.  And then there’s the obvious, you know, manifestation of that. You drive me to where I need to be and see that I have nutrition and you do…you and the people around us.

John:
So I would say that the answer to how to respond in that is to get out of the way and let Him be. Because I can’t determine how He’ll manifest or what He’ll do or how He’ll live that life, you know?

Martha:
You can’t guess.

John:
I can’t. If I guess and if I…it’s going to be goodness, it’s going to be focus on you, it’s going to be, you know… Though I’m a shepherd, though I live as a shepherd, though I was trained as a shepherd with sheep and goats, and though I shepherd you, I’m aware.

Martha:
As you were with them.

John:
With them, yeah. But I’m aware listening, not aware knowing.

Martha:
And you’re not hovering and you’re not, and you’re not taking over. You’re just quietly watching and considering. You’re not exerting yourself so that it’s “JOHN.”

John:
That wouldn’t serve you at all. Actually it’d be detrimental.

Martha:
It’s just amazing what God is doing here. He’s revealing His Fatherhood to a number of us.

Watching God Be a Good Shepherd – Episode #607 – Shulamite Podcast

In times of trouble or difficulty, whether it’s personal or that of a loved one, are we looking at God? Are we watching the Good Shepherd love His sheep? There’s no harder time to raise our eyes but we will be made rich beyond compare if we do so!

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In times of trouble or difficulty, whether it's personal or that of a loved one, are we looking at God? Are we watching the Good Shepherd love His sheep? In times of trouble or difficulty, whether it's personal or that of a loved one, are we looking at God? Are we watching the Good Shepherd love His sheep? There's no harder time to raise our eyes but we will be made rich beyond compare if we do so! Shulamite Ministries clean 10:47
Coming to Know the Love of Our Real Father – Episode #606 https://shulamitepodcast.com/know-love-our-real-father/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=know-love-our-real-father Sat, 14 Jul 2018 09:00:29 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4695 https://shulamitepodcast.com/know-love-our-real-father/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/know-love-our-real-father/feed/ 2 <p>Coming to Know the Love of Our Real Father Episode #606 7-15-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #605. Coming to know God, to love and be loved by our real Father is THE great adventure! Don’t settle for knowing ABOUT Christ, or you’ll miss […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/know-love-our-real-father/">Coming to Know the Love of Our Real Father – Episode #606</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Coming to Know the Love of Our Real Father
Episode #606
7-15-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #605.
Coming to know God, to love and be loved by our real Father is THE great adventure! Don’t settle for knowing ABOUT Christ, or you’ll miss knowing HIM.

Martha:
And you know, John, the adventure of life is not to get everything you want. The adventure of life is to know God. And if you miss that adventure, you’ve not lived.

John:
You may have amassed things for yourself but you didn’t truly live.

Martha:
If you live by a bucket list of all the things you want to do, you are going to do, and that’s your satisfaction – that you did your bucket list – you’ve missed it entirely.

John:
It’s just the love of the world, isn’t it?

Martha:
Just love of the world! And the world will never give anything but grief.

John:
But see the amazing thing is, is that if you are purposed to know Him, determined to know Him, you may experience… He may go through and you may experience a bucket list but it will be with Him and it will be eternal.

Martha:
Exactly! I’ve had a bucket list of fabulous experiences around the country and the world. And but it was Him.

John:
You’ve wanted to travel to different places and He took you there with Him.

Martha:
With Him, because of Him, in Him! And He told me every trip, He would remind me, “Ok, you’re not going to Ireland to speak, to teach people. You are going to Ireland to love Me there.” It’s all about loving Him.

John:
So if you had gone and you had said, “Oh, I want to go and see my ancestral home and where I’m from,” and if you’d done that, you would have been like, “Oh, well, that was…how beautiful” and it would have been a lovely memory. But because you did it with the goal to know Him, He was revealed in your ancestry. He was revealed in your ancestral home. He was…

John:
He was so much greater.

Martha:
The revelation was there. It was greater! And, you see, I don’t remember that I asked to go there but our friend arranged for me to go there. Remember?

John:
Absolutely!

Martha:
And I would not have asked that much of her because it was a long drive and she had to find it and so forth. But it was…it showed me God. Exactly! His purpose, and His long, long arm of ranging for a life.

John:
So knowing Christ and purposing and determining to know Christ is not like you just sit on the couch.

Martha:
Right!

John:
It’s not, you’re not sequestered in a dull, purposeless life.

Martha:
He’s too fabulous and too complex and He wants to reveal Himself in all that He is and so it is the only adventure. You want an adventuresome life? Get on the train that’s headed to know Him and you will…

John:
Well, most people think, you know, pre-saved people, think that becoming a Christian is going to be the most dull, boring thing in the world.

Martha:
And you will be denied everything fun.

John:
Exactly. And it’s so completely counter to the reality. But even to be saved you have to determine to know Him in order to know Him.

Martha:
Yes!

John:
Otherwise you are just going to know about Him.

Martha:
Yes! It’s the ‘about’ that trips people up. ‘About’ means you don’t have to get involved with God. You can just know about Him and talk about Him and think about Him but not Him. And that’s the tragedy of…

John:
That’s missing Him!

Martha:
They have no knowledge of God. It’s what Paul said about the Corinthians.

John:
It’s tragic!

Martha:
It is! It is THE tragedy. If you could know God one year, it would be worth it all, and then you went to heaven. But to spend your whole life getting to know Him, not yourself, as you say on your blogs. So it’s, it’s so exciting I’m bursting.

John:
Well, I saw, you know, the weakness and then I saw the zeal and the life come forth and I’m like going, “Wow!” So that’s why I stepped aside, because I was like, “Wow, wee!” This is… You literally had an energy that was not your own.

Martha:
For sure! It was the energy of the Spirit for the Father. And I spoke some about the Father in that CD of the Month. But I read something in…somewhere else of my writings. I can’t think at the moment where it is, maybe it was Adoration, that we are all prodigals. We’re all lost in one form or another in our own self-consuming lust, whatever that happens to be. Sometimes even religious stuff. But we are children who are lost to come back to the Father expecting Him to reject us or subdue us and we find who He really is. That story is the story of every Christian.

John:
That was from The Real Father.

Martha:
Oh, is that The Real Father? Ok!

John:
The CD series The Real Father.

Martha:
And everybody has to go to discover how wonderful the Father is. And at least the prodigal came to his senses from madness. We’re all in madness until we come to our senses and say, “I need God! This is it! Nobody, I have nothing and nobody and I am nothing and I am just getting deeper and deeper in a hole. It must be God. I’ve got to have God.”

So he goes back expecting just to be the lowest servant and he’s celebrated as the choice, favored son. The favor of God is for those who come home to Him. It doesn’t take anything, you don’t have to earn anything, you don’t have to accomplish anything. You can say, “Here I am. Aren’t You proud of me?” Oh, no! You’ve come back to Him destitute and He gives you every favor of His love and covers all your shame and all your mistakes and all your filth of the world. It’s phenomenal. That is the real Father. That’s my Father in heaven.

I’ve been listening to Fernando Ortega’s song “How Great the Father’s Love for Us.” The words of it are awesome.

John:
I love Fernando.

Martha:
Uh huh.

John:
His music is just…

Martha:
It’s quieting.

John:
It is!

Martha:
Fernando is quieting in his music. Keeps it rather simple. Just piano.

John:
Um hmm.

Martha:
See, John, in the Tape of the Month, the real emphasis was on the Father. That’s the ultimate. I just want to read these lyrics.

How deep the Father’s love for us, how vast beyond all measure, that He should give His only Son and make a wretch His treasure. How great the pain of searing loss, the Father turns His face away as wounds which mar the chosen One, bring many sons to glory. Behold the Man upon a cross, my sin upon His shoulders. Ashamed I hear my mocking voice, call out among the scoffers. It was my sin that held Him there until it was accomplished. His dying breath has brought me life I know that it is finished. I will not boast in anything. No gifts, no power, no wisdom. But I will boast in Jesus Christ, His death and resurrection. Why should I gain from His reward? I cannot give an answer. But this I know with all my heart, His wounds have paid my ransom.

John:
That’s intense. That’s beautiful!

Martha:
Made a wretch His treasure!

John:
That’s beautiful, that’s absolutely beautiful.

Martha:
Where is it, Hebrews? It’s from the scripture. How great a love the Father has that we should be called His children. You want to read it?

John:
1 John 3:1 NLT says: See how very much our Father loves us, for he called us his children, and that is what we are!

Martha:
The song is taken from 1 John 3:1?

John:
Yeah, that’s where that scripture you quoted was.

Martha:
One of the things I told was that repentance takes you to the knowledge of God. And at this time we are… There is so much repentance going on. It’s so intense and beautiful and cleansing and I really feel that God is getting us ready and the Church ready for an outpouring of His glory. That we are yet to see… We are going to see glory, many say, as we’ve never seen it before. The last days are going to be filled with His glory and His power.

John:
And the counterfeit of that is the darkness that will increase, and if the darkness is going to increase to a level that is frightening, beyond what we…then the glory of God would to be equal and greater. So it’s a wonderful time.

Coming to Know the Love of Our Real Father – Episode #606 – Shulamite Podcast

If you find the Christian life dull or boring or lacking in anything fun, there’s a big problem. Coming to know God, to love and be loved by our real Father is THE great adventure! Don’t settle for knowing ABOUT Christ, or you’ll miss knowing HIM.

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Coming to know God, to love and be loved by our real Father is THE great adventure! Don't settle for knowing ABOUT Christ, or you'll miss knowing HIM. If you find the Christian life dull or boring or lacking in anything fun, there's a big problem. Coming to know God, to love and be loved by our real Father is THE great adventure! Don't settle for knowing ABOUT Christ, or you'll miss knowing HIM. Shulamite Ministries clean 11:15
What is Your Determined Purpose? – Episode #605 https://shulamitepodcast.com/determined-purpose/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=determined-purpose Sat, 07 Jul 2018 09:00:02 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4692 https://shulamitepodcast.com/determined-purpose/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/determined-purpose/feed/ 2 <p>What is Your Determined Purpose? Episode #605 7-8-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow Paul said, “My determined purpose is that I may know Him.” Paul’s chosen, heart-set goal was to know Jesus Christ. What have you set your heart to pursue? John: Well, today we were sitting here and we were going to do a […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/determined-purpose/">What is Your Determined Purpose? – Episode #605</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> What is Your Determined Purpose?
Episode #605
7-8-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

Paul said, “My determined purpose is that I may know Him.” Paul’s chosen, heart-set goal was to know Jesus Christ. What have you set your heart to pursue?

John:
Well, today we were sitting here and we were going to do a podcast because we don’t have one for this weekend. And all of a sudden I realized that you came to the gunfight packing, and you had, you were packing heat. And so, you know, whenever I see that, whenever I notice that you’ve got an anointing and you’ve got a…

Martha:
A fire! (laughs)

John:
…a fire and you’ve got a passion, I step aside. I just, I’m not going to run that over. I’m not going to squelch it or quell—I just step aside and I let it just come out. And it was amazing. And what it end up, is going to end up being is August CD of the Month. We just finished a Message of the month that will go out tomorrow, which is July 4th. But all of a sudden I realized this isn’t a podcast. This is a message of the month because you literally came with such, you know, anointing, such passion. And it had that teaching feel but it had an impartation of life. And I didn’t, I didn’t want to disturb it.

Martha:
Oh, John, thank you.

John:
I just didn’t want to disturb it. I have learned. You know, it’s wherever the Spirit is lighting.

Martha:
Yeah, that’s it.

John:
And how He is lighting. And I’m not gonna, I’m not gonna ever fight that because what I end up doing is distracting and deferring from Him and I’m just not gonna do that. So…

Martha:
May I be as faithful as that to you.

John:
(Laughs) But, it’s just, it’s just what it is. It’s just what transpired, but what you were talking about was so absolutely phenomenal and it is the purpose of life. As you were doing the message, I was sitting there saying, “The title of this is The Goal of All Things.”

Martha:
Wow!

John:
And so being the goal of all things, there’s no question that if it is the goal of all things, it’s something we should talk about. So I just kind of want to spin off of that and talk. So, you know, August CD of the Month will be a deep diving and revelation of an impartation of what you were talking about. And the odd thing is, is that when I was swimming today – and I’ve talked about on the blog and I’ve talked on the podcast I swim and I swim with a waterproof iPod, and I have songs mixed up with your teaching, and so literally I’ll have a song that will come through and another song that will come through and then it will be a five minute excerpt, you know, track that comes from one of your teachings and it’s going to be you – and so today’s one was out of The Great Lie and you specifically mentioned The Great Lie in the Message of the Month. So and the thing that you were talking about, you quoted Philippians 3:10-11 in the Amplified, the Classic Amplified which is:

Philippians 3:10-11 AMPC
[For my determined purpose is] that I may know Him [that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with Him, perceiving and recognizing and understanding the wonders of His Person more strongly and more clearly], and that I may in the same way come to know the power outflowing from His resurrection [which it exerts over believers], and that I may so share His suffering as to be continually transformed [in spirit into His likeness even] to His death, [in the hope] That if possible I may attain to the [spiritual and moral] resurrection [that lifts me] out from among the dead [even while in the body].

You talked about that and you were, you were…

Martha:
John, I didn’t quote that verse! (gasps)

John:
I know, I know, I know, I know. I was excited. I was going, “Oh how cool!”

Martha:
I meant to. That’s perfect.

John:
It is the perfect one. It is THE determined purpose.

Martha:
And it’s where I made the choice, on that scripture.

John:
You did!

Martha:
I want that determined… I determine that that is my purpose, too, to know Him.

John:
That is what you said.

Martha:
And it has cost me everything. Just like he says!

John:
And that is what you said!

Martha:
And gained everything!

John:
And that’s what you said in the CD of the Month. I mean in the, in The Great Lie. You go off…yes, absolutely. That’s where you…you went off from there and so if it is the determined purpose, you have to purpose.

Martha:
Yes! Thank you! That’s not on my CD of the Month either.

John:
No, this is all good!

Martha:
But you are not giving the stuff I said. You are giving your and that’s what I want. Come on!

John:
Well, this is just, this… You have to determine, and you have to determine regardless of what is going on and what is happening.

Martha:
And it’s a matter of seeing your life in terms of that determined purpose. It’s, if you have it as your determined purpose, then you have a view, a mindset to see those things that are the result of your purpose. It’s going to be participating in His very life and walking His same path. It’s going to be that! It is costly and it is worth it to the nth degree of eternity. It is worth it! It is nothing compared to knowing Him through eternity.

John:
Well, we’ve had a number of people lately that have contracted us about some pretty dire and difficult situations and health crisis, spiritual crisis, job crisis…

Martha:
Sin crisis!

John:
Sin crisis, exactly. And what I kind of gleaned off of what you were saying on The Great Lie is that everything is to know Him and everything means everything. Everything means our joy, our sadness, our success, our failure. Everything is to know Him. Every, literally, every single thing in our life is to know Him. There is nothing that is not purposed to know Him.

Martha:
So that mean a revelation hides in every relationship, in every situation, in every objective, in every work. God is wanting to reveal Himself. That’s His purpose.

John:
Completely! Totally!

Martha:
Wow!

John:
And if you only say He’ll only reveal Himself when you are reading the word or when you are having a quiet time, or when you are having a successful life or when you’re having… You’re, you’re missing it. You’re missing Him. He says that He is in all things. What’s that scripture that says, “I am in all things?”

Colossians 1:17-19 AMPC
And He Himself exists before all things, and in Him all things consist (cohere, are held together). He also is the Head of [His] body, the church; seeing He is the Beginning, the Firstborn from among the dead, so that He alone in everything and in every respect might occupy the chief place [stand first and be preeminent]. For it has pleased [the Father] that all the divine fullness (the sum total of the divine perfection, powers, and attributes) should dwell in Him permanently.

He… That, that is the overreaching, overshadowing deal that every bit of our lives, regardless of what it is, is to reveal Him so that we could know Him and we can know Him in everything. I can know Him when I fail. I can know Him when I succeed. I can know Him when I’m in dryness. I can know Him. Every single place, I can know Him.

Martha:
Oh wow, that’s awesome! He’s this faithful. If I forget that’s it’s about knowing Him, He brings it to me.

John:
Absolutely!

Martha:
He reminds me of it. And He did it this time through sickness. I kept saying, “What is the meaning of this?” And then I dropped it and said, “I can’t know the meaning of it.” And then He gave me the meaning. And He didn’t have to do that. I knew it was for something for Him and still is. But in this extremity is where I came once again to that issue, that determined purpose, that one goal that determined purpose.

John:
That’s how you can thank Him in everything is if you’ve determined purpose is to know Him, then you can thank Him in everything because everything is purposed to know Him.

Martha:
Oh, John, that’s powerful! I never saw it in quite that way. The reason you can thank Him, you just gave it.

John:
Exactly! And in the Message of the Month you also, you read from Adoration and what I was seeing when you were saying that is that Mary suffered greatly, ok. She lost her brother through death. She was scorned by her sister, shamed by her sister in front of the man she loved the most, valued the most, respected the most. She was shamed—tried to be. And then she ended up losing Christ through death and crucifixion, the most shameful death. Ok! So just in these three things of her life, all three of those things were for her to know Him because she had purposed to know Him. It was her determined purpose to know Him and because it was her determined purpose to know Him, all three of those scenarios revealed Him. And she was memorialized in them.

Martha:
Exactly! I was just thinking that. She was exalted because she sought to know Him and hear Him. You only know a person if you listen. That’s what she did, she listened. She left life and her own thoughts and everybody else and listened. That’s the deal. That’s how you make a relationship with God. And it, sometimes it is as dull as a barn door! You don’t think you’re hearing anything but He honors every amount of time we spend trying to hear Him.

What is Your Determined Purpose? – Episode #605 – Shulamite Podcast

Paul said, “My determined purpose is that I may know Him.” Paul’s chosen, heart-set goal was to know Jesus Christ intimately and in all things. What is your determined purpose in this life? What have you set your heart to pursue each and every day?

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Paul said, "My determined purpose is that I may know Him." Paul's chosen, heart-set goal was to know Jesus Christ. What have you set your heart to pursue? Paul said, "My determined purpose is that I may know Him." Paul's chosen, heart-set goal was to know Jesus Christ intimately and in all things. What is your determined purpose in this life? What have you set your heart to pursue each and every day? Shulamite Ministries clean 12:01
Impartation out of Resurrection Life – Episode #604 https://shulamitepodcast.com/impartation-resurrection-life/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=impartation-resurrection-life Sat, 30 Jun 2018 09:00:42 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4627 https://shulamitepodcast.com/impartation-resurrection-life/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/impartation-resurrection-life/feed/ 4 <p>Impartation out of Resurrection Life Episode #604 7-1-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #601. In the Body of Christ, we affect one another. We do! In the resurrection life of Christ, we impart LIFE. What are we imparting when we operate in the flesh? […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/impartation-resurrection-life/">Impartation out of Resurrection Life – Episode #604</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Impartation out of Resurrection Life
Episode #604
7-1-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #601.
In the Body of Christ, we affect one another. We do! In the resurrection life of Christ, we impart LIFE. What are we imparting when we operate in the flesh?

Martha:
Okay, so back to the issue of impartation. Which I didn’t know this would be about, but it’s perfect because what we gain in Christ, we can impart to brothers and sisters. And Nee says if you come under the authority that God puts you under, you will pass through things easier than that, that leader did. And that’s my hope and prayer that just by this testimony or that message and that particular group of people… The problem is resistance, John. If you don’t know God’s purpose and you don’t know where you’re going, and this is part of knowing the Way, you can know that you are going somewhere even if it’s to death. But you’re, the end result is gonna be resurrection life. So I hope and pray that that experience produces hope and vision and purpose. God’s purpose is always to bless us. “I know the plans I have for you, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, to give you hope and a future.” That is God! And He will go to quite drastic lengths if there is an obstacle in me that I don’t want to be there, I don’t understand that’s it there, I don’t know how to quit—He is faithful to bring His own method of weakness. Paul experienced it and he tells about it. And he tells about the visions in heaven that also were part of his experience. And then he talks about the thorn in the flesh, which was to keep him humble. And when God gives you a grand, glorious revelation, He always gives you a balancing of humility so that you can, you won’t be ruined and exalted. Everything is just grace, grace.

John:
Ok, it’s 2 Corinthians or 1 Corinthians?

Martha:
2 Corinthians.

John:
2 Corinthians 1, right?

Martha:
Um hmm. And this is sort of where I am this morning. I’ve been quite on fire with joy and desire and understanding what’s, what God wants to be shared. Let me read 2 Corinthians 1:7 (Amplified): “Our hope for you (who read this and hear this) [our joyful and confident expectation of good for you] is ever unwavering (assured and unshaken); for we know that just as you share and are partners in [our] sufferings and calamities, you also share and are partners in [our] comfort (consolation and encouragement).” And that encouragement is in the resurrection. Whatever God does to set us to death is to prepare us to live, manifest, and experience the actual resurrection life of Jesus. That life of Christ in the Body now is a resurrection life, a conquering of death life. And when His resurrection life comes, it is the conquering of death, even the conquering of our dead state and the inability to not live in the flesh. Paul’s Romans 7 is the despair of his weakness. “I love the law of God in my mind but in my body is another law at work.” And his desperation is kind of what you feel when you are in that death experience and that weak, that terrible weakness that you have to learn is what you have. We can’t produce anything good. And then Paul cried out and what he really received was the life of Jesus by resurrection. That’s what he actually received in place of his death. So that’s where we’re headed. We’re all headed to the grave, the cross, and the resurrection. Paul is really revealing this and we just don’t catch it. In 2 Corinthians 2:5 he says:  “Now if anyone has caused pain, he has caused it not to me,” (and Paul’s in a different place, understand) “but in some measure—not to put it too severely—to all of you.” So this is, this is a different kind of life. We affect each other. We are responsible for the effects of our life on that unseen, transcendent Church. I have a verse that is my current most fascinating, powerful, intriguing verse that I want to understand. It’s Ephesians 3:20-21 NASB: “Now to Him who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or think, according to the power that works within us, to Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations forever and ever.” He is able to do way beyond our imagination according to the power of God within that is at work always within us. To Him be glory. So you see there is a life inside of us the power of which we don’t comprehend. The presence of this life and this power within us is going to accomplish what God wants us to be and is always working unseen, unknown, unrecognized within us to bring about what is God’s pleasure in us and for us. It’s just phenomenal how this life of Christ is everything and everywhere. And everything is going to be brought into His fullness and under His authority. That, too, is Ephesians. His life will transcend, transform everything in this universe.

Impartation out of Resurrection Life – Episode #604 – Shulamite Podcast

In the Body of Christ, we affect one another. We do! In the resurrection life of Christ, we impart LIFE. What then are we imparting to those around us when we’re operating in the flesh? Whether we want to be or not, we are vessels of life or death, one or the other.

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In the Body of Christ, we affect one another. We do! In the resurrection life of Christ, we impart LIFE. What are we imparting when we operate in the flesh? In the Body of Christ, we affect one another. We do! In the resurrection life of Christ, we impart LIFE. What then are we imparting to those around us when we're operating in the flesh? Whether we want to be or not, we are vessels of life or death, one or the other. Shulamite Ministries clean 8:09
Resurrection Life in the Transcendent Church – Episode #603 https://shulamitepodcast.com/resurrection-life-transcendent-church/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=resurrection-life-transcendent-church Sat, 23 Jun 2018 09:00:20 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4625 https://shulamitepodcast.com/resurrection-life-transcendent-church/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/resurrection-life-transcendent-church/feed/ 3 <p>Resurrection Life in the Transcendent Church Episode #603 6-24-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #601. Martha reminds us: “Resurrection life only happens on top of the grave.” And there is no transcendent church without the resurrection life of Jesus Christ! Martha: This story comes […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/resurrection-life-transcendent-church/">Resurrection Life in the Transcendent Church – Episode #603</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Resurrection Life in the Transcendent Church
Episode #603
6-24-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #601.
Martha reminds us: “Resurrection life only happens on top of the grave.” And there is no transcendent church without the resurrection life of Jesus Christ!

Martha:
This story comes to mind and it’s real old. A long time ago, I had a friend that we were supposedly together in Christ but there was just wasn’t any unity. And I sat down with her and I said, “One of us is not in the Spirit and it’s not me!” I’m not sure I could always say that but she worked it out somewhat and is still with me after all these years. But that’s, it’s the Spirit. It’s our individual relationship with Christ by the Spirit that keeps us in the flow of the Body, keeps us in the fellowship that is universal and international and mysterious and functions on a level of the spiritual realm that we really cannot comprehend.

John:
You always talk about it as the transcendent Church and for me that, that’s amazing. The transcendence of the Church is Christ the head.

Martha:
And it’s transcendent. That means it’s above earthly things, human things, visible things. The Church…and Sparks calls it the Church is in the heavenlies. And Ephesians says every spiritual blessing in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. In order to have the spiritual blessings to which you are entitled, you have to be in the Church by being under the head. Well said, John. And then you are in the flow of Christ but it’s by each person being in the Spirit. So there seems to be many things that we are learning and called to share about this experience. It’s not just about Martha. It’s about an empty vessel that was rendered so empty, at last, that God could come through and with a message that I believe was phenomenal even though I really wasn’t there. (Laughs) Here’s the shocking verse (2 Corinthians 2:5): “If anyone has caused you pain (To the Corinthians from Paul) he has caused it not to me but in some measure to all of you for such a one this punishment by the majority is enough.” One person’s immorality hurt everyone in the Church, and so that’s why it’s imperative that the Church Body wherever it’s present and operative must engage in Church discipline. I won’t go into that right now. Didn’t intend to talk about it. But there again, Paul is revealing the oneness of the Church.

John:
Do you think that every time we rely on our self, wherever we rely on our self, in whatever arena, that’s when we bring in flesh and death?

Martha:
Absolutely! Good grief, John. You want to expand on that?

John:
Well, I just, I mean, I just see that any place that I have independence, which means my life doing it or my will doing it or my self in any way doing it, I have defeat. And I’m wondering, and just, you know, I’ve got a thought about just areas that I do it. And those are the areas that I can’t… I literally… It’s like walking across a bridge that’s, that’s rickety and broken and I fall right through. Any time I pull myself from out from underneath the Head, I bring in death. And there’s areas of my life that I cannot get through and get victory over and I’m wondering if it’s just not because I won’t let Him be head and I won’t let Him be— I won’t be weak is what really what it is. I won’t be weak.

Martha:
Okay, you won’t be weak and dependent. There you go. You only have His life when you need it.

John:
Well, I need it but it’s the trying.

Martha:
Um hmm. It’s hard to give up the trying.

John:
Yeah, you know, I’m aware of the need.

Martha:
Well, why do you think He had to hit me with such weakness? And, see, I was a living picture.

John:
But, see, you could have been weak in that same exact scenario, you could have been weak, and tried. And you would have brought death. You won’t have brought anything. Everybody would have left and said, “Oh! Humph.”

Martha:
But He produced the weakness that there was no try possible. That’s what’s kind of terrifying. He produced a weakness that I could not conquer…

John:
I get it, yeah, okay.

Martha:
…and I could not fix and I had to accept and I had to live it. So, see the problem, John, is we can’t, we can’t even do… I tell the, I think on the podcast, that my daughter would say to me, “Mom, you just have to accept your condition.” And I would say, “I know that but I can’t.” And I had to beg Him, “Give me the acceptance You’re asking of me to live like this. I can’t bear it and I can’t do it and I can’t be thankful in it. All of the things You want of me in this weakness I cannot give You. You’ve got to do it for me and in me.” And He did! And it took a long time. But, see, what He did in me was kind of the hard way. I don’t know that I am more resistant or rebellious than anybody else, but it was His choice to manifest in this body and this testimony the result of His diminishing me and weakening me in the way, as Psalms says, was to produce the resurrection life. Only my death to self could produce the option of the resurrection life. And He demonstrated it to you, to us, this little circle, and then He demonstrated it in the meetings and now He’s demonstrating it in the podcast. That resurrection life only happens on top of the grave. And I had to die to being able to work. I had to die to my cooking. I had to die to my gardening. I had to die to all those “efforting” things that I love to do, and to accept that as a lifestyle and perhaps a permanent thing was not easy. And only He could give me… Only His grace and mercy for me gave me the power to let it be and to live helpless.

John:
Maybe that’s the difference right there. Maybe the difference is in the try versus no-try is death.

Martha:
It’s death, John, yeah! It’s death. You just said it a few minutes ago. You said, “Our— What we produce is death.” When we’re apart from the mind of Christ and we are not in the Spirit, then we are in the flesh. And it, it, just as life produces life, death produces death. We’ve seen that vividly. People come in with death and rebellion. It leaves a death, destruction.

John:
So I’m gonna experience death regardless. I’m gonna either experience the death of my flesh and His life or the death of my will and the death that it produces. I’m gonna get death regardless!

Martha:
Exactly, exactly!

John:
So it’s just whether on the opposite side of the death if I want His glorious life or I want further death. See the difference? But it’s just, it’s literally… Death is the only deal.

Martha:
Death is our only challenge, our only solution. And to get to Christ the solution and the indwelling Christ, death is necessary. And as much as they witnessed the miracle of life, they also witnessed the reality of death to self. And I can’t, I can’t tell you how terrifying. I would really… I wish I could say I didn’t worry about it. But I would say, “Lord, a hundred and thirty people are coming and some of them are flying here and coming here at great expense that they’ve planned for months. What are You going to do? I am nothing! What is Your solution? I can’t bear it if I stand up and I have nothing to say and I can’t even stand up. What are You going to do, Lord? Why are You doing this because I can’t, I won’t be able to bear it if these people arrive all expectant and I stand up and say, ‘Dub de dub!’” (Laughs) But, of course, He was faithful to my grave and faithful to Himself that He raised… Never have I experienced more vividly the resurrection life and I didn’t have that name for it for many, many months. But it’s a power that’s beyond any weakness of humanity. A power greater— They witnessed in person a power greater than our deepest weakness, our most devastating weakness.

Resurrection Life in the Transcendent Church – Episode #603 – Shulamite Podcast

Martha reminds us: “Resurrection life only happens on top of the grave.” And there is no transcendent church without the resurrection life of Jesus Christ! But how do we know whether we’re powered by Christ’s life or our own rebellious nature? Check the fruit!

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Martha reminds us: "Resurrection life only happens on top of the grave." And there is no transcendent church without the resurrection life of Jesus Christ! Martha reminds us: "Resurrection life only happens on top of the grave." And there is no transcendent church without the resurrection life of Jesus Christ! But how do we know whether we're powered by Christ's life or our own rebellious nature? Check the fruit! Shulamite Ministries clean 10:48
Prayers Powers by the Mind of Christ – Episode #602 https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayers-powers-mind-of-christ/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=prayers-powers-mind-of-christ Sat, 16 Jun 2018 09:00:36 +0000 https://shulamitepodcast.com/?p=4623 https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayers-powers-mind-of-christ/#comments https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayers-powers-mind-of-christ/feed/ 2 <p>Prayers Powers by the Mind of Christ Episode #602 6-17-2018 With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #601. When we are united under the Headship of Christ, our prayers are powered by the mind of Christ to serve the purpose of God. What powerful prayers those […]</p> <p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com/prayers-powers-mind-of-christ/">Prayers Powers by the Mind of Christ – Episode #602</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://shulamitepodcast.com">Shulamite Podcast</a>.</p> Prayers Powers by the Mind of Christ
Episode #602
6-17-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

This is the continuation of a series of Podcasts started in Episode #601.
When we are united under the Headship of Christ, our prayers are powered by the mind of Christ to serve the purpose of God. What powerful prayers those are!

Martha:
So I went through this experience for two and a half years of weakness for the Body. Yes, I was chastened in it. Yes! But it was… And He told me, “There is a purpose for this, that when you see it, you will be happy.” And I am. But it’s so much bigger than I ever dreamed. And it’s right here in 2 Corinthians. When I, we were taping the series about my illness and the resurrection life, I kept referring to people who prayed and I never adequately said it, what I meant by that. But now I can say it. This verse explains it in 2 Corinthians 1. And sometimes I get embarrassed by telling my own stories and telling my own secrets many times. But this what Paul is doing here in 2 Corinthians (1:6-9). He did it in 1 Corinthians, too. But he says, “If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort. Our hope for you is unshaken, for we know that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in our comfort.” Now I said on there, there were a number of people, I don’t know how many, some prayed for me every day for my health. Some, some were not terribly close on an everyday place with me but they shared in my sufferings so they can share in my victory. Suffering is just one side of victory. And then he (Paul) goes on to give this testimony: “We want you not to be ignorant, brothers, of our, of the affliction we experienced in Asia. For we were so utterly burdened beyond our strength that we despaired of life itself. Indeed, we felt we had received the sentence of death.” And that so perfectly describes that two and a half years. “But this was to make us rely not on ourselves but on God who raises the dead.” Ah, that’s it! It was to, it was so that I had no choice but to rely. The Amplified (Classic) puts it this way: “We felt within ourselves that we had received the [very] sentence of death, but that was to keep us from trusting in and depending on ourselves instead of on God Who raises the dead.” We’re not just depending God but a God who raises the dead and brings resurrection life. And that’s what He did for me in that experience. So those who prayed entered in somehow in the body to what I needed. And he, this says in verse 11: “You must help us by prayer though, so that many will give thanks on our behalf for the blessing granted us through the prayers of many.” And that’s what happened. The prayers, it took the prayers of many. It took so much prayer from this little Shulamite Body of Christ and they suffered with me. They wept over me and agonized for me and prayed for me more than I know. Only Jesus knows what it put them through for me to go through this. So then I had mentioned on the podcast that I’d love to know what that conference looked like.

John:
Then you got an email from someone responding to the podcast about the conference, The Road that Leads to Life.

Martha:
Yes! This was just amazing. This is someone really precious in the Lord: “Dear Y’all!” I guess she’s southern like us! “And you are all dear. I read today’s podcast about how empty you felt during the last August conference. I thought I would review my fifteen pages of notes from the conference.” I don’t think I had fifteen pages written myself.

John:
Fifteen pages of the actual conference, yeah!

Martha:
Right! This is so funny in a way. But it was very discerning. “I remember seeing Martha approach the podium and thinking, ‘She’s got nothing!’” (Laughing) Oh, so true. “I remember feeling a little fearful like ‘Uh oh what’s going. Did she not prepare? Is she well enough? Let her sit. She looks so weak.’ So I prayed a short arrow-like prayer: ‘Help her.’ And a wonderful thing happened. Right before my eyes, your stature strengthened, your voice settled into its source of power, and we were off! From my notes I’m reminded pray for zeal for the scriptures. I am a little child and all that means to live like one. The Way rests in the person. He makes the changes He requires.” And so she went on to share with her, her notes. But that was so encouraging because that’s what I experienced, and she was one who comprehended the entire thing. But she took her responsibility to pray. “Help her!” Perfect, perfect, perfect!

John:
She joined in with all of us. We were all literally praying and she just literally…

Martha:
Got in the stream…

John:
Got in the stream.

Martha:
…of the Spirit. Ohhhh.

John:
One mind. She got in that mind and that mind was wanting to bring that message through.

Martha:
Wow!

John:
And so she as brother-sister-mother, she literally came up underneath the will of God and was able to pray the mind of God for the purpose of God. The whole thing was the will of God. It was so cool. It was so cool because we all joined into His mind. We see that in the podcasts a lot. We’ll see that we’ll all come together and we’ll all have something that we’re sharing and bringing and it’s all unified and it brings one solid message out of all the different parts.

Martha:
Well, see that’s happening right now, John, because in my going into this podcast, you have brought in an aspect that we didn’t plan. And the podcast is never planned. So you brought in, by the mind of Christ, the meaning of the impartation and fortified the revelation that I got from scripture. So it’s just wonderful.

John:
He is the grand orchestrator of the whole thing.

Martha:
He is the Master of the orchestra. And He wrote the song and sings the song. So I did finally come to say, “Thank you for your prayers,” but I felt more than that. I felt that the power… In the middle of all that, there was a great deal of warfare and a tremendous attempt of the enemy not to get that message out. It was one of the cruelest forms of warfare that we’ve experienced. But through the prayers of the Saints who cared about my suffering and were not selfish and self-centered, “I want a message. What is this woman coming up here with nothing!” (Laughs) But one who would take the responsibility that we all have to pray for where there’s a weakness in the body. And I know that this woman, this dear woman will get riches.

John:
Well this is the, this is the way it is not only with our podcast but it is with every single conference. It’s Body life. If you’re coming just to receive and to suck off, you’re gonna miss—

Martha:
You’ve missed it.

John:
You’ve missed it because it’s about the Body, engaged Body.

Martha:
Right! And one prayer I always pray is “God, before this conference is over, make us Church.” And Jennifer mentioned that. In the last podcast she said, “Sometimes we start as Church but in this conference (this last one in August), we were Church at the end. We had one mind about things that the Lord was bringing.” And that is the unity so powerful that for us to invest in the Body of Christ and receive from the Body of Christ is the constant flow of His life among us. And it’s just incredible if you ever see it.

Prayers Powers by the Mind of Christ – Episode #602 – Shulamite Podcast

When we are united under the Headship of Christ, our prayers are powered by the mind of Christ to serve the will of God. And what powerful prayers those are! Neither distance nor time can impede the prayers of the Body of Christ when we’re following the Spirit.

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When we are united under the Headship of Christ, our prayers are powered by the mind of Christ to serve the purpose of God. What powerful prayers those are! When we are united under the Headship of Christ, our prayers are powered by the mind of Christ to serve the will of God. And what powerful prayers those are! Neither distance nor time can impede the prayers of the Body of Christ when we're following the Spirit. Shulamite Ministries clean 10:09
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Episode #601
6-10-2018

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow

Every Shulamite Podcast is described as giving “not just another method but a living impartation.” But what does that mean? How do we impart to another?

Martha:
I have had quite a morning and I’m sitting down with John. We are going to do a Podcast. But I have something personal I need ask for. Someone sent me a wonderful book on The Cross by a man named Mantle. But the name of the giver was not in the package. So if you would just let us know who you are I’d love to thank you for such a rich book. Okay, this morning I was really deeply seeking the Lord for two friends of mine who are very sick and I came to a passage in 2 Corinthians 1:3 (-5 ESV):

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. For as we share abundantly in Christ’s sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too.

The next verse in 2 Corinthians 1 is 6 and I am going to read this one from the Amplified:

But if we are troubled (afflicted and distressed), it is for your comfort (consolation and encouragement) and [for your] salvation; Verse 6 says: But if we are troubled (afflicted and distressed), it is for your comfort (consolation and encouragement) and [for your] salvation; if we are comforted (consoled and encouraged), it is for your comfort (consolation and encouragement), which works [in you] when you patiently endure the same sufferings.

And I’ve said often and I don’t hesitate, it’s so real to me, that nothing God gives me in terms of revelation, in vision, in understanding—none of it is for me. I’m a vessel in which He deposits things for others. So that’s how I view myself. I’m just a vessel. I’m a conduit for what God want to give everybody else. And so in reading this I realized that I had the capacity to comfort because of my own recent suffering. But actually, it’s not my comfort that I learn, it’s I’m here to impart the very comfort He gave me to those who, those two who are sick. And when I imparted that comfort to her by the Spirit, not in words, she said, “My spirit is soaring high,” because of the hope that I could give her, because of the hope He gave me. I gave her His hope, I believe. I didn’t give her my hope. I gave— What John always said that so puzzled me, John always said, “Not another message but giving a living impartation.” And for a long time I didn’t understand that. And then when I did understand, I could hardly believe it. That if you’re speaking from the Spirit, from the revelation of Jesus Christ, you’re speaking on a different dimension than if you are giving information. You’re giving not just an inspiring message, you’re being given life. And that sounds audacious and presumptuous but it’s the

truth. We are to minister ­– even Sparks says so, Nee says so – we are to minister life not words, life not information. Christ’s life not 1-2-3 how-to’s.

John:
What I say is that it’s not another method; it’s a living impartation. See the problem is, is that quite often we want the method, we prefer the method. The method is “I can do it, I can control it, and I can maintain it” but that’s not it. That’s a bastardization of the actual Gospel. The Gospel doesn’t say that I am the source of all life. My vessel becomes the source of life because His life is in me. And so, you know, if you could give me just a 1-2-3 methodology, then I can leave God and go do it. It’s, it’s rebellious. It perpetuates my rebellion and my independence of God. And that’s the whole, that’s the whole problem with a method. A method is very, very, flattering to my flesh. A method… But it’s the original lies. It’s the original lies that say that I can do it without God and that I know. And as long as I have my method, I’m good. “I got you, God. I’m all ok. I’m perfect.” And the fact is, is that I’m not. And so the thing that’s so dynamic about what you’re saying to me is that, I mean, you are validating the entire thing, that the living impartation of Christ has more value and more worth than all the methods out there. So let the methods dry up and wither away and blow away in the wind. That’s what I would really like all the methods to just – poof. Twelve steps to this and, you know, three steps to this and A-B-C to this. Those are, they’re repulsive to Christ because of the fact that… I’m not saying the Twelve Step Programs are repulsive but just, this is the spirit of the thing, I’m not, you know. He uses things, ok. He uses, He uses things where we’re at. But the fact is, is that the ultimate is impartation, and that’s what you have.

Martha:
And, John, you’ve been saying that for twenty years and I’m beginning, probably, to catch on. But I did see this oneness of the body. There is One life that is the Body of Christ; just One life. Not five million together or five trillion together. There is One life in the Body of Christ and that One life is available from life to life, from vessel to vessel. And so the Body of Christ is one. It doesn’t matter how far. I remember reading that what we go through of liberty or deliverance or blessing is transferred to the Body of Christ all over in some mysterious ways. Not just dependent on the internet and books and tapes. Ok, so living impartation, and it is absolutely scriptural, John. And you’ve understood it for more than twenty years. I realized that I had something to impart not to say to my friend.

John:
One of the first messages I heard of you before I ever came was the “Christ, the Head.” It was one of the most impactful messages I had heard from The Spirit and the Wind CD series. And it basically talked about Christ being the head of His body and that… You just, you validated all kinds of things that I was feeling and things that I was hoping for. But with what you’re saying about the unity of the Body and the unified mind of the Body and the one source of the Life and how we’re all one body, we’re all one – one! – under the head who is Christ. And the thing that just, just shocks me and just… There is One force, there is One will going forth out of all of us that are under the Head. “Who are My brother, sister, mother? It is those who do the will of God” (paraphrased). Because you’re in the mind of Christ, you’re under the headship of Christ, you’re moving so there is no discord, there is no conflicting, you know, there may be, I don’t even have to go there. There is no conflicting purpose because it’s all, you may have to have the purpose revealed to you of how it is, but we’re all moving forward. That means out of your life is the same life that’s coming out of me, all for the same purpose. And that means the church in Kansas City, there’s a one purpose; the church is Colorado… They’re all one purpose and all under one mind.

And so the living impartation is that it’s all Christ as Head, and the single mind. We can be all unified, you know. With all our different lives and all of our different—we can all be unified because we are under one head. His mind is moving all of us. And, you know, you say you are a conduit. Ok, yeah. You are a conduit. As you’ve submitted your will – less of Martha, more of Christ – His life is coming through you. Does this make any sense?

Martha:
It makes perfect sense because those who truly know Him, that’s what they say. That you, if you’re not imparting life when you speak, you’re imparting death. There’s only life and death. And there’s only One life. If we could ever get that there’s only One life! But, see John, you got that so many years ago and I was puzzled by it for years, because I couldn’t conceive that you could actually give Christ away and it be living. But that’s what the function of the Body is.

What Exactly IS the Living Impartation? – Episode #601 – Shulamite Podcast

Every Shulamite Podcast is described as giving “not just another method but a living impartation.” But what does that actually mean? How do we impart to another person? And what is it we’re imparting to them? Tune in for John and Martha’s impartation!

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Every Shulamite Podcast is described as giving "not just another method but a living impartation." But what does that mean? How do we impart to another? Every Shulamite Podcast is described as giving "not just another method but a living impartation." But what does that actually mean? How do we impart to another person? And what is it we're imparting to them? Tune in for John and Martha's impartation! Shulamite Ministries clean 12:19