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A Nothing Will Ask for Everything
Episode #651
5/26/2019
With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special Guest: Jennifer Wentzel
This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #648.
A little child looks to a parent for everything because he has and can do nothing. When you are nothing, you will ask God for everything, just as a child.
Jennifer:
Mrs. Nothing we will see you now! That makes me think of… You said the Promised Land and Joshua and Caleb, wasn’t it? And I always, I think I always read those scriptures with an eye to faith alone, I think. But it just occurred to me that maybe part of that is understanding that it’s not on you. And somewhere, Joshua, although he doesn’t say that specifically, but like Paul, purposed to know this God that was leading them. Because it says, right, Moses told him to soak in the word day and night. He didn’t want to leave God’s presence in the tent. And when he came back from the land of giants and real difficulties presented, he didn’t even blink. But what if it’s because he understood that it wasn’t his problem? That it was more that, more than just, “God’s going to keep His promise. He’s gonna do…” What if he understood that it literally was not his problem, because it wasn’t his to handle. It wasn’t any of theirs to handle; that God had clearly already made a way and that’s why He said, “Come on in,” because He had already solved it.
And if you’re in that humility of nothingness, I think you have a much clearer, greater, miraculous grasp of the One who is Everything. Maybe you, you see Him in a way that you can’t see if you’re still in the delusion of something.
Martha:
You know, Jennifer, that’s great because in Joshua, chapter, the first chapter, he had to be encouraged over and over and over again. He was weak. He was trembling. He had the, the responsibility to get Israel over there across the Jordan, then to fight all the enemies that occupy the land. And he had to be told, “Stay in the Word and be of good courage.” You have to have a lot of courage to be nothing, don’t you? Oh, you’re laughing and saying, “Yes!” But that’s all you need is the courage. You mentioned the word “faith.” Caleb and Joshua believed that if God said it, that it could be done. They said, “Yeah, there are giants there but there’s also milk and honey.”
So when you’re nothing, you are going to have to rely on what God
says that He will do it. And that puts you in the position of faith. How are we going to get that in the booklet, Jennifer?
Jennifer:
Okay and that’s a perfect lead in because Martha and I talked about this and we wanted to read a little excerpt from this, from this jewel. And so this is from a little section titled Called to Ask.
“We are not called to BE Someone, DO great things, RULE worlds, or SAVE people. We are only asked to ASK. That’s all.
Now ask and keep on asking and you will receive.
John 16:24 AMP
We Nothings cannot be or do or make. But we can ask. All things are available to Nothings who alone are nothing enough, to ask-and-receive. We Someones run and don’t ask. We go and forget to seek. We create an unsolvable mess because we fail to beseech. Asking is the only occupation of a child. A child is Nothing because he cannot be or do anything. His sole capacity, his one occupation is to be needy and tell God.”
And I tell you, it gets me every time, because it’s just love. And really… I wasn’t sure if I was going to talk about this, but I’ve had repentance since reading this booklet. Because, yes, it does require courage to be nothing but it also, it also requires my refusing to receive the lie about God. Because when I believe, by which I mean all that is in me leans upon and hold as true that He is good and that He loves me, I… Being nothing is not scary, you know? Being nothing is not scary when the One who is everything for you and through you and to you is Love.
Martha:
I’m gonna to tell an old story. I shared with Rosemary Lokers this issue of being nothing and she laughed and reminded me… She said, “Martha, many years ago, some nineteen or so, when you came to Honduras for the first time to speak and six pastors were coming to hear a woman speak…”
John:
Unheard of.
Martha:
Unheard of! And they had a big place, outdoor place that we were going to be. And it was one of those typical occasions when I had no message and no idea what I was going to say. I was a true nothing. But she… And I wept in their porch. She said, “I know where you sat on our porch, where you wept and wept and you said, ‘I have nothing to give these people. I have nothing.’”
I was overwhelmed at the poverty. I was overwhelmed at their need and I knew that I, a comfortable American, how would I speak to these people and what on earth could I give them? Well, of course, Jesus but… She said, “I thought, ‘This woman is crazy. She’s known for three months she was coming and she’s not ready?’” We’re on the phone and she’s laughing. We are laughing at the memory of it. But she was not happy at the time and was, “This woman is crazy.” And little did she know that so many times, ninety percent of the time when I speak, I don’t have any idea where I’m going. The whole conference called The Way. I went there not knowing what I would even speak about. I had no outline. I wanted one, believe me! I wanted an outline. I wanted it all laid out. Sometimes He does that. But this time I knew moment by moment. And, of course, when I stood up to speak in Honduras, I think it was pretty good. Huh, John?
John:
Oh, it was amazing!
Martha:
And I was welcomed warmly by these pastors.
John:
You were received completely by pastors who absolutely refused to receive anything from a woman.
Martha:
But remember Paul said, “I didn’t come to you with eloquence. I came in fear and trembling.” He went as nothing. I’ve never seen that before this time that that’s the stance that we have to come to, to represent God and let Him manifest Himself.
Jennifer:
I’m so glad you brought up The Way, because I don’t know if you remember… It’s a 2-CD series. And it’s probably one of the most powerful I’ve ever heard on the exchanged life, on worship, on a living sacrifice. It’s just, it’s phenomenal. But there is a point and it’s in the first CD I believe, where you’ve talking to this… It was a praise conference, wasn’t it, John?
John:
It was a, it was in Anaheim, California and it was a black congregation and they were doing Judah Fest praise and worship, and it was literally…They brought you in to bring the message. And then everything else about the conference was gonna be about worship.
Jennifer:
And you get, I don’t know, fifteen, twenty minutes in… And what you were saying was wonderful but there was a hesitancy to the way that you’re speaking. It’s a little bit slow. It’s measured, kind of. It feels, it feels hesitant compared to what comes after. And you literally stopped and you said to this congregation, who you did not know – you didn’t know any of them, you guys had been invited out there – and you said, “Oh, people, I am under such warfare up here.” So you literally admitted that right then you were getting hit, you were struggling, you couldn’t do it, and you prayed. You can hear people in the audience praying with you. And it’s like day and night what happens next. It’s like the Spirit in you took off. All the obstructions are gone. There is nothing but life and joy and confidence in everything that is coming out of your mouth. The hesitancy is gone. The, the almost sluggish pace – gone. It’s, it’s my favorite thing I think about that series is that you literally get to listen…
John:
Witness!
Jennifer:
Witness answered prayer. Witness the power of, you know, Jesus Christ when church… All you needed was two people. All you really needed in that whole place of whose know how many hundreds was one other person truly in the Spirit praying along with you. And the gates of hell did not prevail. Away they went and off you went giving a Spirit-filled, phenomenal message.
Martha:
We had a absolute glory land and there were other speakers and the master of the conference stood up and said, “This, this woman is giving the message of the whole conference.” And he said, “Now, ya’ll…” (He didn’t say ya’ll because it was California!) But he said, “They have not asked for a penny. They’ve flown here on their own expense. They’re not asked for any honorarium. I’m gonna pass the hat around and I want you to give to them.” And they gave… That was… I really loved that church and that experience. I wanted to go back so bad. So…
Jennifer:
I am excited for this. I’m excited for it to go out and I couldn’t figure out exactly what else I had to say but I want to close with this if that’s, if that’s all right. Jacquelyn got this promise and proclamation for the Lord’s message through this ministry. Psalm 67:2 in the Passion. And she altered it slightly so that we could proclaim it. “Send Your words you have given the Shulamites out all over the world so that everyone everywhere will discover Your ways and know who You are and see Your power to save.” And at the end of the day, the beauty of this revelation of being nothing is that it only highlights the One who is everything.
A Nothing Will Ask for Everything – Episode #651 – Shulamite Podcast
When you are nothing, you will ask for everything just like a little child. A little child looks to a parent for everything because he has nothing and can do nothing. Courage, fellow nothing! Our Father has everything and delights to take care of His children.
