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with Martha Kilpatrick and John Enslow
(M) Well, John, it’s Easter morning, early, and I feel like the Lord has given me a resurrection message. Not only is He risen, but He lives, and His existence is the only true existence in the universe. And everything at its root is His existence. I’ve been reading a book on quantum physics, and the startling things that they’re discovering… Quantum physics is down to the smallest element of the universe. And in these discoveries they have found that the essence of everything that exists is really emptiness. The illustration was that iron is ninety-nine point nine, nine, nine, nine, nine empty. And when you get down to the bottom of it, it’s easy to grasp, even though it doesn’t make any sense. Because everything is really concentrated energy; and I believe they’re going to discover that everything is, that the secret of energy is light. That’s the existence that God spoke into being light, and it is Christ. But in essence, this author says, you’re nothing and I’m nothing. So I was really asking the Lord to explain something to me about some people that I’m working with. Tell me what, at the core, is the problem, because it seems very complex, and very convoluted. It goes round and round, and we never seem to get anywhere. And He said, ‘the essence of it is pride’. And pride is: believing that I am something. Now, pride has two aspects, because we all have it.
(J) Umhum.
(M) The first pride is: I’m too good, I’m superior; I’m too good to work, you have to do the work for me. Ah, I am god, and everything revolves around me. That’s the pride of superiority. But inferiority says I am inferior, I’m less than. So I will do your work because I’m less than.
(J) Mmmm. Opps.
(M) (Martha laughs) And… But the essence is pride. Both believe they are ‘something’. And when He said that to me I went, but the inferior believes they’re nothing. He said no they don’t. The inferior believe their something is in their inferiority. But humility is being… Coming to the place; and it’s a real, valid progression and a place you arrive at: I am nothing. When you are nothing, as the prodigal, the prodigal became nothing. His pride was in both directions. He deserved the inheritance, and then he was less than a slave of his father. He had gone from one pride to the other pride. But when he came home he said I am nothing. And in that place, ‘I am nothing’; he could be bestowed upon the life of the father.
(J) Umhmm.
(M) So as long as you strive, and focus on your inadequacy, you’re in ‘something’. But ‘nothing’ is freedom. When I am nothing, I am absolutely free. I’m free to not need to be noticed, I’m free to not have to have a title, I’m free of myself, and of ambition, and of self-hatred too. You’re nodding; you see.
(J) Hmhum.
(M) But we are… We are nothing. You see, we want to exist, and we believe we exist. No, we don’t exist apart from Christ. There is a scripture in1st Cor.1:30. It says, “It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus who has become for us wisdom from God, that is our righteousness, holiness and redemption. Therefore it is written, let him who boasts, boast in the Lord.” And I didn’t know, in the beginning, what on earth that meant. But I know now. What it means is, He is my very existence. He is my character. He is any righteousness, any doing right is Him, because He is all of this. He is my life; literally John, that’s not theory. He really is my existence. And I think that… If anyone remembers the ‘yes’ He called from me at Eze. It was a ‘yes’ to His existence as God in a way that I still cannot describe. It’s a yes to letting Him be my existence, to the ultimate, with no obstacle in me to Him expressing Himself through me. One of the things I’m going to go into, and I can’t wait, at the conference is, all nature groans, because nature wants the manifestation of the sons of God. And when nature groans, and catastrophies are happening, natural catastrophes, it brings about the manifestation of where is Christ, in human beings. The stories of Katrina… There’s one obscure story of one church that did phenomenal things. I can’t tell you the details; I don’t remember them right now. It reminded me of our little movie “Ushpizin”, where the two criminals who only could scheme, destroy and rob, invade and use and lie, contrasted with the religious couple who were trying so hard to please God, who were trying to do the right things so that they could have a child. And in the end the Jewish man says, “You are nothing, and I’m nothing. There’s only God.” And that is the statement that is so profound. The Jewish man came to humility, and so did the criminals, through it. Humility is I’m nothing, there’s only God. There is nothing I have and can be. God is who I am. Now, we are, we are vessels; and this vessel and that vessel, and nothing alike. And the manifestation of that existence dwells in each one. But we are nothing but a vessel. We are unique, but we’re not special. And when you are inferior, you want to be special. When you’re superior you think you are special. So you’re something on either ground. (John’s laughing) Why are you laughing?
(J) Ohhh. Because I know humanity and I know myself. (Martha laughs)
(M) Well tell me what… I know that you’re on something related to this.
(J) I am. Well I just ah, heard ‘pride is defining self outside of your Creator’.
(M) Ummm.
(J) So, that’s really what it is. If I define myself as beneath or above, it’s still pride. It’s, that is pride. You know, I can’t say that that’s all pride is, but that’s, that’s what I’m seeing right now.
(M) Umhmm.
(J) So for me, that’s all it is.
(M) So the Holy Spirit has been on you with the same thing, and I didn’t know it.
(J) Well I’ve been in 2nd Peter. I’ve just going through the New Living translation. And it basically… In 2Peter1, “I am writing to you who share the same precious faith that we have; faith given to us by Jesus Christ.” First of all, the faith was given to you by Jesus, our God and Savior, who makes us right with God.” And I was just seeing everything following this ‘who makes us right with God’. It continually goes back to God, goes back to God. And I’m seeing that we’re all looking for merit outside of God’s calling and choosing. And not only His calling and choosing, but His power, His being, His existence, everything. So I, I cannot be in right standing outside, I have no merit outside of Jesus Christ making me ‘right’. And I just… I can see that as being the pride when we try to find merit in ourself; when we go to God in the morning and we say ah you know, grovel, grovel, or whatever. I can look at it that way. But if we go, and looking for merit, whether it’s in our study, in ourdoing, in our whatever, if we’re looking for that merit outside of God we’re done. I mean that’s, that’s pride.
(M) We are dead, that’s what it is.
(J) And so, we go on and it’s just talking about He’s given us; He has given us everything for living a godly life. He has given it. And then it’s out of His calling to receive His glory and goodness. And then it’s His promise that allows us to escape the decadence that’s surrounding us by evil desires and evil men. And ultimately it’s His godliness that comes forth that we love, love Christians first, and then we love everyone. And yeah, I’ve not done that; I’ve not loved everyone. And so I’m just in where you’re at, in second Peter. Uhmm, and I’m just excited because it’s futile for me to continue to go to Him looking for His love, His acceptance and His choosing, outside of Him, and looking for some kind of merit within me. Please raise me up above my inferiority because I have no merit. Well, I’ll never have merit inside of me. I’ll only have merit in Him.
(M) I think those who feel superior have a harder time. Inferiority, where you think you’re ‘less than’, when actually you’re closer because you’re nothing. But the superiority is closer to the satanic pride, and is harder to come down. But God is able. What He does… I think this is the meaning of bringing every mountain down, and every valley up.
(J) Umhmm.
(M) Pride takes those two forms. And when John the Baptist came, he came to level the path. I’ve known from my early walk that that meant bringing the inferior up and the superior down, so that we all are level in mankind. We are all absolutely destitute without God. We really don’t believe that. The inferior believe we should have more than we do, or be more than we are. The superior believe they are. And so, God has to level us both to that ground, where you can see Christ out of your need for an existence; a true life that exists and has meaning. And it says ‘let those who boast, let them boast in the Lord’; and that’s, to me that is real worship. In Roman’s 12, when you’re giving your body, and you are the vessel, you’re the lamp, He’s the light in you present your body. And you really become that living sacrifice. Then you see the manifestation of Him. You exist because He exists in you, and you exist in Him. You’re in union with existence, which is only Jesus. You see that, and then that gift of your body is considered worship. But what happens in you when He manifests is that you exuberant… You’re exuberant in Him. You’re amazed in Him. You boast in Him. That is worship. When you have seen Him in your own body, knowing that it’s not you, that you’re nothing.
John Enslow:
Living with anticipation of how Christ is to reveal Himself in the coming days. Martha has an urgent message of hope and preparation for times of trouble and crisis. These times and the times that are coming are to be trying, but the Lord has an intention and a joy in revealing His holy purpose. We wish to invite you to “the Coming One”, our upcoming conference held in Atlanta, Georgia, May 29th through the 31st.
